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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:42 pm to
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The package that the Lakers and Spurs would consider "the line" is Ingram, Kuzma, and two first round picks. More and it's too much for the Lakers, but less and it's not enough for San Antonio.
Assuming there's sufficient intel that Kawhi is healthy and will be normal Kawhi going forward and willing to sign that extension, that seems like a fair trade for both sides.


Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:43 pm to
its probably negotiating against ourselves which i hate but frick it. the end results will be amazing
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:44 pm to
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He legit triggers me
I love how much he pissed you off
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:45 pm to
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That would be a haul. Wow.



Depends on how you look at it from the Lakers point of view.

Would you trade Kuzma and a future 1st for Lebron? I know I would

And

Would you trade Ingram and a future 1st for Kawhi? Again, all day everyday



Because you would make both of those trades to get both of those players


Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Sports Illustrated @SInow The 76ers are weighing trade packages for Spurs star Kawhi Leonard, sources are telling @JakeLFischer


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San Antonio has informed teams its preferred target in any Leonard trade is the Celtics' Jayson Tatum, sources say. Teams have noted this is likely a negotiating tactic, and it’s widely believed in league circles Boston is more likely to propose a deal centered around Kyrie Irving and future picks. But based on previous behavior, the Celtics are unlikely to overpay for Leonard.


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Philadelphia’s internal discussions have focused on potential trade packages offering various young players and future draft selections. One team source says preliminary discussions with San Antonio revealed the Spurs have strong interest in a package involving burgeoning forwards Dario Saric and Robert Covington as well as a future first-round pick. A potential, more serious offer that Philadelphia is weighing internally includes Saric and Covington and the 2021 Miami Heat unprotected first-round pick the Sixers obtained in their draft-night deal with the Phoenix Suns.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:50 pm to
@incarcaratedbob
Looks like Magic is about to happen in LA
Word is starting to leak that Spurs are now "Intrigued" with Lakers latest offer for Kawhi and this could get done soon

Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:51 pm to
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@incarcaratedbob


Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:51 pm to
Please let this happen. This would be awesome. My body is ready.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:51 pm to
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San Antonio has informed teams its preferred target in any Leonard trade is the Celtics' Jayson Tatum, sources say.

That's like me walking into an interview and saying, "my ideal salary is 1 million dollars". Your ideal target doesn't matter here Spurs, you don't have the leverage to get that. If Kawhi was healthy this entire season, that would be one thing, but he wasn't.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Word is starting to leak that Spurs are now "Intrigued" with Lakers latest offer for Kawhi and this could get done soon


Ingram
Kuzma
Pick

Is better than

Saric
Covington
Pick

IMO
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:54 pm to
its a lot better. covington and saric are interesting, but ingram alone is better imo
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:54 pm to
What it what look like between Lakers, Lebron, and Kawhi fans if they decide to team up in LA

Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Zach Lowe in The Jump: The package that the Lakers and Spurs would consider "the line" is Ingram, Kuzma, and two first round picks. More and it's too much for the Lakers, but less and it's not enough for San Antonio.

Lowe just replied to this on Twitter saying that this was speculation, if he was the Lakers that would be the line for him.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:56 pm to
If that pick from the Sixers is that Unprotected heat pick it gets it closer. I still like the Lakers package though because I’ve always liked Ingram
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:56 pm to
if that offer was on the table than this would be over with imo

lakers are probably saying kuzma or ingram and a future first. but not both. spurs are saying they want both and the pick. i bet its one or the other, the future pick, and like hart or something. thats something i can see san antonio accepting after whiffing on boston and looking at the philly offer. and the lakers get to keep either kuzma or ingram
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:58 pm to
To me, the trade is about getting someone back who can be a future star. Covington and Kuz are throw ins (good role players for sure though). It's really about Saric vs Ingram, and Ingram has the edge. Saric has potential too though.

IMO, the picks are "throw ins", too. Who knows how good Miami is going to be in 2021, it's too far out to really value it as much.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 3:01 pm to
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if that offer was on the table than this would be over with imo

lakers are probably saying kuzma or ingram and a future first. but not both. spurs are saying they want both and the pick. i bet its one or the other, the future pick, and like hart or something. thats something i can see san antonio accepting after whiffing on boston and looking at the philly offer. and the lakers get to keep either kuzma or ingram

If the trade is with the Lakers I don't see any way that Ingram is left out of it. I wouldn't accept anything less than Ingram, if I was the Spurs. The picks don't matter as much as him.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 3:03 pm to
absolutely

ingram, hart, 2019 first....they can trade that now right? or do they have to wait for july 6th? if no than the 2020 first

thats my guess in where this ends up
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 3:04 pm to
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lakers are probably saying kuzma or ingram and a future first. but not both. spurs are saying they want both and the pick.


If I was the Lakers, I would do both and the pick, especially for the right pick.

If they think they have Leonard, LeBron and PG, the Lakers own firsts are gonna be #25 and above for 2-3 years. I wouldn't let that be the tipping point.

It would hurt to lose Ingram, but Kuzma and a low first aren't really blows.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 3:04 pm to
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Depends on how you look at it from the Lakers point of view.
Also, it isn't like the Lakers would be giving up their future for some rentals.

I imagine Lebron and Kawhi would stick around for as long as they're welcome.
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