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Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:23 pm to
We are fans of rivaling teams, of course we are each going to say our guys are better. That said, I would trade AD for no one but LBJ and KD. Hes fringe top 5-10 now and hes 21.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59894 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:24 pm to
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Boom claims you have to lead your team to the playoffs to be considered top 10


Nope never said that, just that I'd have a really hard time putting someone in my top 10 who had never lead a team to the playoffs.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41249 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:24 pm to
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improving the team through smaller upgrades as a plan B


i don't think the team improved. i think it stayed the same. you lost a backup center and gained (potentially) a backup SF. and you're paying 15x more for Parsons than you did last year.

having 2 SFs at a combined 22+ mil a year is as bad as the Pels having two SGs at 25 mil
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:25 pm to
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I agree with this... Pels fans need to give it up.


Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27997 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:25 pm to
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Our D has more to do with monty than the players.
Isn't Monty known for being a defensive coach? Wasn't he the coach a few years ago when the Hornets were actually a really good defensive team?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Isn't Monty known for being a defensive coach?
the biggest fallacy in the known universe
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27997 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:31 pm to
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i don't think the team improved. i think it stayed the same. you lost a backup center and gained (potentially) a backup SF. and you're paying 15x more for Parsons than you did last year. having 2 SFs at a combined 22+ mil a year is as bad as the Pels having two SGs at 25 mil
First off, money issues have nothing to do with play on the court. So how much players are being paid is irrelevant in regards to whether or not the product on the court got better or not. So that point is irrelevant.

Secondly, Asik played about 15 minutes a game, if that.

Ariza can back-up multiple positions, so he will get about 30 minutes a game... roughly starters minutes. So his impact will be greater.

And one last point about the salary. The Rockets can go over the cap on that $22 million. Pelicans can't with their $25 million. So the Pelicans are squeezed more.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:33 pm to
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sn't Monty known for being a defensive coach? Wasn't he the coach a few years ago when the Hornets were actually a really good defensive team?


If you're talking about 2010/11:

They had a lot of veterans that were good at D(Oak/Ariza/CP3(when he was around)

He was decent at first but his awful rotations have really shown the past 2 years.

He was renowned as a D coach but is actually pretty poor.
Posted by Mohamed Ali
Member since May 2014
1053 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Although Boom vs Fear rivals any other troll vs troll on TD.



Fear, thoughts on this?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32262 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:35 pm to
Being a 'defensive minded coach' and succeeding as one are two vastly different things.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59894 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:36 pm to
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We are fans of rivaling teams, of course we are each going to say our guys are better.


One thing that I've noticed is that most of the Rockets fans here don't say that our guys are better just because they play for Houston. Pels fan, especially when it comes to Davis and any HOU players, don't evaluate players with the same lack of bias that myself and my Rockets brethren do.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59894 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Oak


Just renounced by PHX maybe he wants to come home to Houston and play with Ariza and back up Dwight.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Fear, thoughts on this?
It's an honor to have my name in the same sentence as boom. proud day for fear
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27997 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:38 pm to
So 2010 the players were good on D. 2014 the players are not good on D. This much we know.

A great rim protector can single-handedly lift a team defensively. The stats do not show that with Davis.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:38 pm to
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don't evaluate players with the same lack of bias that myself
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:39 pm to
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A great rim protector can single-handedly lift a team defensively
it's gonna to be a great year for the pels
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37020 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Before Howard, when Asik was the starting center, the Rockets were about 15th in the league on defense with him in the game, and dead last with him on the bench.


Fap so hard
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27997 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:40 pm to
If y'all get Asik, then for sure the Pelicans will see a huge leap up the defensive rankings.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37020 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:41 pm to
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If y'all get Asik, then for sure the Pelicans will see a huge leap up the defensive rankings.


Please tell me you aren't one of those "clutch fans", who are saying that Houston should renege on the Asik deal.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:42 pm to
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If y'all get Asik, then for sure the Pelicans will see a huge leap up the defensive rankings.
you're making me moist
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