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re: Most Overrated Statistic in Sports?

Posted on 2/26/13 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 1:47 pm to
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I think it's passing TDs. As long as your QB is efficient and moving the ball, who cares whether you get a one yard TD run or a one yard TD pass? And comparing the TDs to ints? Awful. It's why I always thought the Brees record was dumb.
You mean the yardage record or the td record?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 1:51 pm to
penalty minutes in hockey
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 1:55 pm to
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If YAC inflate QB's yardage, then receiving yards must be overrated too. What about the distance a pass traveled in the air before a WR catches it? A WR shouldn't get credit for a 20 yd TD they catch in the end zone?

QB yards and WR yards play off of each other. It's give and take

The receiver still has to run his route to catch the ball. If a QB throws a screen pass, the WR can go 80 yards and get a TD. As it is now, the QBS will get the same stats although he didn't do anything after he threw it.

If a WR runs a post and catches it 30 yards down the field and runs an extra 20 yards, the QBS will still get the extra 20 yards. The WR still had to run the run the route, catch the ball, and get the YAC, where the AN is done after he throws the 30 yard pass.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 1:56 pm to
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penalty minutes in hockey

I'm always confused when people bring up someone's high penalty minutes like it's a good thing.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 1:57 pm to
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Saves seems to be a popular answer. Why?


The entire late inning stategy in MLB has been centered around the save. It's become formulmatic. 9th inning with a 3 run or less lead bring in the "closer". Who is allegedly your best relief pitcher. In the 7th, you could have a critical situation where there is 1 out, runners on 1st and 3rd in a tie game or you lead by a run. Logic would dictate this is a good time to bring in the ace bull pen guy, but no, they keep him for the 9th and bring in some journeyman scrub or maybe a young guy to get the key outs. Then the "closer" comes in with no one on and a 3 run lead and gets a "save". Kind of like other guys do all the leg work getting the sale, but some guy comes in at the end and signs the papers, so he gets the sale. But hey, at least they get to play Enter Sandman by Metallica in the stadium when the closer comes in.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 1:58 pm to
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The receiver still has to run his route to catch the ball. If a QB throws a screen pass, the WR can go 80 yards and get a TD. As it is now, the QBS will get the same stats although he didn't do anything after he threw it.

If a WR runs a post and catches it 30 yards down the field and runs an extra 20 yards, the QBS will still get the extra 20 yards. The WR still had to run the run the route, catch the ball, and get the YAC, where the AN is done after he throws the 30 yard pass


So?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:00 pm to
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So?

It's the point of this thread. That QB passing yards are overrated.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:03 pm to
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That QB passing yards are overrated.


So?

Seriously you are really reaching with that. How about when a WR drops one right in his hands or it bounces off of a WR and the QB gets an INT. It all washes out. Plus all the QB's get the same benefit so it does not warp anyone
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 2:07 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36189 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:07 pm to
RBI is much more relevant than Batting Average. Batting Average tells you virtually nothing. It's an awful stat.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25816 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:08 pm to
If passing yards are so overrated, why are the consensus top QBs near the top of the league in passing yards every year?

I think the best argument for passing yards being overrated is the emergence of guys like Kaep and Russell Wilson.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:10 pm to
yardage gained as a measure of the quality of an offense.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:11 pm to
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If passing yards are so overrated, why are the consensus top QBs near the top of the league in passing yards every year?
Because if they're the best in the league, they'll probably pass more times than other, lesser QBs.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:14 pm to
My campaign against WAR continues. It's incredibly inaccurate, and doesn't really measure anything except in the broadest possible terms. But people use it to be "smart", when WAR actually gives you LESS information than traditional rate stats of AVG/OBP/SLG.

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:14 pm to
They will usually pass more and have greater completion percentages.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31551 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:21 pm to
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RBI is much more relevant than Batting Average. Batting Average tells you virtually nothing. It's an awful stat.

Except the percentage at which a hitter gets on base by putting the ball in play. To me, that's a pretty damn important stat.
Posted by XLSU
Tigerland
Member since Feb 2013
182 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:24 pm to
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Saves


WORD.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28016 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:25 pm to
Any stat that isn't on a per attempt basis.

For example... 25 ppg means nothing if you took 100 shots in a game.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:35 pm to
"Assists" in baseball.

I didn't know it was a stat that was even kept until last year.
Posted by TheLittleAristotle
On my couch absorbing MFP 3:16
Member since Feb 2006
3909 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:38 pm to
SOS
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 2:48 pm to
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WR and the QB gets an INT. It all washes out. Plus all the QB's get the same benefit so it does not warp anyone


The QB shouldn't get the INT for that though, it wasn't his fault.


And I know for some Saints fans the idea that passing yards is overrated, and I'm a Saints fan, but it's true.
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