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re: Most overrated in the MLB

Posted on 7/16/10 at 12:06 am to
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 12:06 am to
I would have said K-Rod but he's fallen off the map.
Posted by samm980
Houston
Member since Dec 2008
1550 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 12:07 am to
Carlos Lee and Pedro Feliz


Oh sorry I thought we were talking about Drayton.
Posted by Marines4Auburn
Auburn Alum in South Florida
Member since Sep 2009
14926 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 12:11 am to
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not really

arent you a rangers fan??

your best players strike out more often


It is a poor ratio for a guy who is supposed to be an all star and a "potential HOFer". For the record I am a Rangers fan but how does this have to do anything with the fact that I think Brian McCann is over-rated? I have no bias to the Braves, in fact I go and watch them play with my buddies from Auburn.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288201 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 12:33 am to
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For the record I am a Rangers fan but how does this have to do anything with the fact that I think Brian McCann is over-rated?


Nelson Cruz and Josh Hamilton strike out more frequently that he does.

That doesnt make him a bad player.

you said that was terrible

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It is a poor ratio for a guy who is supposed to be an all star and a "potential HOFer".


no catcher has more HR's than McCann since his debut. Id say he is pretty good.

Posted by TigerTig
Spring, TX
Member since Oct 2008
626 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 12:57 am to
Barry Zito
Posted by glb
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2008
1606 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 8:45 am to
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but McCann strikes out 1 in every 5 abs, that is terrible.


McCann has 2681 plate appearances in the major leagues with a K% of 14.9. This season in 309 PA's he has a K% of 20.5. So do you think those 309 PA's are more important than the other 2372 PA's or do you just like cherry picking stats?

This post was edited on 7/16/10 at 8:51 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73840 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 8:49 am to
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McCann strikes out 1 in every 5 abs, that is terrible.
a 20% strike out rate is not terrible by any means actually

who has more HR's, RBI, or a higher BA as a catcher since Mccann got to the bigs? I'll hang up and listen
This post was edited on 7/16/10 at 8:51 am
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 8:58 am to
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He definitely shouldn't have been there this year.


False.

BA is so 1950. McCann's OBP is top notch, despite a down season hitting the ball. By every measure that matters (OBP, OPS, RC, WAR, etc.) he's better than any other MLB catcher at the plate and his D isn't nearly as bad as everyone thinks.

Posted by Louie T
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2006
36588 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:13 am to
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Have you browsed the stats from NL catchers? The only player with an argument against McCann is Olivo, really.
I was going to say Olivo
Posted by TEXASTIGER22
H-TOWN
Member since Feb 2007
11534 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:16 am to
Does overrated = overpaid?

If yes then Carlos Lee wins this one hands down
Posted by lpgreat1
Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
1541 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:35 am to
I'm a Cubs fan but I've always thought Alfonso Soriano was pretty overrated, especially since he left New York.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:36 am to
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I was going to say Olivo


Check out his home/away splits. His success is so obviously a function of Coors Field it isn't even funny.

Olivo 2010 Splits
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62021 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:46 am to
looks like MLB players are just as stupid as their fans
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34539 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:50 am to
Zambrano?
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:51 am to
quote:

looks like MLB players are just as stupid as their fans


Huh? So you're disputing the facts I posted?
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:58 am to
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I'm a Cubs fan but I've always thought Alfonso Soriano was pretty overrated, especially since he left New York.


With the possible exception of Adam Dunn during in his Cincinnati days, I've never seen a player put up more empty stats than Soriano.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62021 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 10:01 am to
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Huh? So you're disputing the facts I posted?


are you retarded? I was talking abou this poll, I didn't even read the facts you linked. Apparently MLB players don't know what the word "overrated" means.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 10:07 am to
You replied to my post and weren't particularly clear. I apologize for misunderstanding. But no, I am not retarded.
Posted by glb
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2008
1606 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 10:14 am to
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Does overrated = overpaid?


It definitely does. That's one reason why JD Drew is always on these lists. Even though he puts up solid numbers, people see his large contract and games he misses and immediately label him overrated.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16686 posts
Posted on 7/16/10 at 10:35 am to
Josh Beckett
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