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re: MLB to experiment with moving the pitching rubber back two feet

Posted on 5/1/19 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 5:38 pm to
frick it. Let’s just move the game to a six inning max or 1:30 minutes whichever comes first. All is dumb except the 20 seconds rule.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 5:43 pm to
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they want more offense but shorter games at the same time
Faster game, not necessarily shorter. Nothing wrong with a 200-minute game as long as it’s filled with action.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 5:46 pm to
All these are are ideas to be tested out in the Atlantic League I’m not gonna throw a fit over tests. If the experiments are proven to work and make the game move at a better pace then I’m all for it. Something has to be done to mitigate the effects of analytics, baseball has reached its efficient extreme.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 5:51 pm to
I'm going to admit my baseball ignorance before asking this question but what is the value of mound visits that has so many people in this thread against the rule change?

This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 5:52 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:00 pm to
I’m fine with all of these experiments, they just need to add one more: Once a batter begins his plate appearance he can only leave the batter box due to: Walk, hit, strikeout, or injury. If you exit the batter’s box for any reason other than those, you’re automatically called out.
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:14 pm to
They would need to move the mound back inches not feet. That’s way too much
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:20 pm to
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Faster game, not necessarily shorter. Nothing wrong with a 200-minute game as long as it’s filled with action.


But you cant manufacture more action. To a baseball purists and lifelong baseball fan, the game is full of action. I appreciate it all, I like great defensive plays and wiggling out of a jam with a great double play. I like watching a pitcher’s duel with two guys dealing late into a game. I appreciate the occasional home run. I appreciate when a catcher is calling a great game and clearly does his homework on the opposing lineup. Baseball is doing all of this to try to make it appeal more to the casual fan but the casual fan will never love baseball. There’s nothing wrong with the way it is.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:24 pm to
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I'm going to admit my baseball ignorance before asking this question but what is the value of mound visits that has so many people in this thread against the rule change?

The exact same value as a head football coach calling a timeout and the QB trotting over to discuss the next play or series of plays. Typically it’s almost always when the pitcher has worked his way into a jam and just needs a little pep talk or strategy talk about how they want to work this particular batter. Often times it is so that the bench coach can get a feel for the pitchers demeanor and remaining stamina on the mound. If your ace is working into the 7th inning and his pitch count is up, you want to hear from the horse’s mouth what he has left and if he can get out of the inning without having to guess from the dugout.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:30 pm to
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But you cant manufacture more action.
Yes you can. Million ways to do that.
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There’s nothing wrong with the way it is.
I don’t disagree with you.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:37 pm to
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I’m fine with all of these experiments, they just need to add one more: Once a batter begins his plate appearance he can only leave the batter box due to: Walk, hit, strikeout, or injury. If you exit the batter’s box for any reason other than those, you’re automatically called out.
I’ll modify this:

If a pitcher pitches, and the batter doesn’t swing, and the catcher makes a clean catch and throws right back to the pitcher, the batter must stay in the box. If literally anything else happens, the batter may exit the box. If the batter breaks this rule, he is assessed an automatic strike.

ETA: on average, about half of all pitches fit this description.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 1:36 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:54 pm to
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Really the only thing that’s going to fix this is to reduce home runs to their historical average so players will stop swinging up so much (resulting in more strikeouts as well as more home runs). A combination of changes in mound height and ball stitching (pause) alone can fix this.


Or move the fences back wherever possible.

Added bonus of more triples.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Or move the fences back wherever possible.
You can heighten them in several parks as well. Anaheim, Oakland, Toronto, White Sox, Washington, Tampa Bay, Arizona, and Colorado all come to mind as parks with significant fence lengths that aren’t directly at the fans’ fingertips.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:04 pm to
If they really wanted more balls in play without drastic change, wouldn’t changes to the bat (slight chance to diameter/weight?) be preferred to changes to the mound?

Seems like that wouldn’t require people to adjust their overall mechanics as much. Also, wouldn’t that extra distance cause wear and tear on the arms of pitchers considering they’d have to practice just to adjust to the change?
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:15 pm to
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changes to the bat
Why the hell not?

I’m getting the feeling that some of these proposed rule changes are part of an ongoing ploy to get us to talk about and, therefore, watch baseball more.

Bat regulation
Ball composition
Mound height

Changing any and all of these three has never been taboo, and you can solve all of baseball’s problems using these three.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47859 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:20 pm to
Manfred is the worst commissioner in my lifetime.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:33 pm to
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In an attempt to spwed up the game
I've never understood wanting to speed up a game in any sport. You're there to enjoy yourself. If you can't tolerate an addition 20-30 minutes, leave.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145153 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:59 pm to
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Two infielders are required on each side of second base
so fricking stupid
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8567 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Manfred is the worst commissioner in my lifetime.



Gary Bettman gets up every morning and thanks both Manfred and Roger Goodell. Those two guys have skyrocketed past Bettman as the worst commissioners in pro sports, by far. Hell, NHL fans barely boo old Gary anymore. He used to be vilified.
Posted by SiriusBraveFan
Member since Nov 2014
652 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:42 pm to
Weren't they supposed to start calling high strikes a couple years ago? In other words the strike zone is technically from the knees up the area between waist and shoulders (if I'm remembering correctly) but umpires have usually never called strikes on pitches above the waist. So that was supposed to be changed I thought although I feel like strikes are still tough to come by at the waist or higher. Wouldn't calling these strikes cut down on some offense and walks, thereby moving games along?

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34653 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:53 pm to
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Baseball is doing all of this to try to make it appeal more to the casual fan but the casual fan will never love baseball


Look what happened when NASCAR did that.
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