re: Mike Norvell’s locker room speech after the Orange Bowl

Norvell is soft.

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Norvell is soft

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Wish he called out half the team that quit on them and left them hanging.

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CFB fans really are the dumbest people alive

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I coached high school football for 20 years. I attended four different schools and coached against every one of them. I know what it is like to experience money and opportunity in sports and compete against an alma mater.

IMO, the problem with a lot of fans regarding today’s college game (NIL, transfer portal, enormous NFL contracts) is they have a hard time understanding money and opportunity in sports and that ultimately you have to do what you think is best for yourself just like you would an everyday job.

If Jake from State Farm gets offered a 50% raise to go to Alfa, he’s going. Just like the backup QB at Florida will transfer to Oklahoma to be the starter, or some All-American will opt out of a bowl game because that is one less chance to frick up his body that is as fragile as it is valuable.

There’s simply too much at stake for these players to be team oriented. Hell, even the coaches (the leaders of the team) walk away to better themselves. Where was Elko during Duke’s bowl game?

Once you have had sports affect your opportunities in life, especially financially, you just see things differently.

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You talk about dumb people being ok with sitting back and watching the sport get destroyed, then turn right around and defend opt outs. The thing that single-handedly killed bowl season. You sound like a bitch. A dumb one to boot.

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No, I don't like any of it.

However, I also understand something called "context". Every situation is different. Sitting out due to being a primadonna is different.

This was a specific case where an entire program was told, point blank, that ONE injury on their team invalidated their entire season.

You want to stop opt outs, players quitting, etc? Of course you do. Everyone does.

Well, start by validating team's efforts during the season and don't tell college kids that an injury to a teammate will destroy their accomplishments.

Many "fans" here cheered on FSU getting fricked over while not even giving consideration as to what the narrative change would do.

The fact that many can't see this connection is laughable, but then again, many of you here aren't bright at all.

You can call me a bitch, call the players pussies, etc all day long, but it won't change the fact that the entities that are destroying the sport are being cheered on. Thanks to the Committee, there WILL be more opt outs. The 12 team playoff isn't going to solve that, especially when the committee starts putting 3-4 loss media darlings in over 1-2 loss teams. It will happen, and anyone with a brain can see it coming.

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Whichever game it is, I don't see how FSU fields a competitive team for a playoff game

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Oh look, another window licker.

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What a sad response. No ability to rebut or debate, just straight insults.

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The entire thread has multiple replies to why this assessment is ignorant.

There are consequences for telling a team their undefeated season didn't matter due to one person getting hurt. The team was left out of the playoff, then put into a meaningless game. The players listened to what they were told, and determined that risking injury wasn't the correct move for them.

If you want shite like this to stop, then quit cheering on the media fricking over teams with this narrative. Everyone who cheered on that decision so a media darling could backdoor their way into the playoff AGAIN did not think about the long term responses.

Now the window lickers that laughed at FSU for getting fricked over are appalled at the fact that FSU's players obliged for a meaningless game.

I don't expect you to understand this.

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You can call me a bitch, call the players pussies, etc all day long, but it won't change the fact that the entities that are destroying the sport are being cheered on.

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Trying to high road after spending the last two of your posts calling the entire college football fanbase idiots.

Just put your clown nose on and shut up.

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However, I also understand something called "context". Every situation is different. Sitting out due to being a primadonna is different.

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TIL sitting out because you're throwing a fit over the selection committee isn't being a prima donna. (It's two words, Mr. everyone else is an idiot but me.)

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There are consequences for telling a team their undefeated season didn't matter due to one person getting hurt. The team was left out of the playoff, then put into a meaningless game. The players listened to what they were told, and determined that risking injury wasn't the correct move for them.

If you want shite like this to stop, then quit cheering on the media fricking over teams with this narrative. Everyone who cheered on that decision so a media darling could backdoor their way into the playoff AGAIN did not think about the long term responses.

Now the window lickers that laughed at FSU for getting fricked over are appalled at the fact that FSU's players obliged for a meaningless game.

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You act like this is the first time in CFB history this is happened. Its happened several times over a span of decades. Why are you melting down so hard this time? What makes 2023 FSU so special and exceptional to you?

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Bama had 3 first rounders play in their non-playoff bowl game last year.

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Georgia (obviously) played in the exact same bowl as FSU and the only opt outs they had were players leaving in the transfer portal and three pre-existing injuries. Not a single opt out for the draft.

This dude is just burning the candle at both ends to defend a garbage culture at FSU and making himself look ridiculous while doing it. As if Georgia wasn't just as disappointed to be in that bowl as FSU.

It's not an accident they got beat by 60. Georgia's response to getting left out was to prove they belonged. FSU's response was to bitch and moan then roll over on the field. That's exactly why Georgia will be right back in it next year while Florida State will have to spend the next 2-3 years rebuilding momentum, if they ever even do. Good culture vs. bad culture. Plain and simple.