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re: Mel Kiper's Top 10 NFL Draft Quarterbacks

Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:47 am to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:47 am to
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Howard is better than McCord.
I watched every McCord game at OSU & every Howard game at OSU.


Uh, is it not possible that McCord got better in his year with Syracuse than he was with OSU? I mean, he had less talent to work with there and still got things done.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15054 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:53 am to
Cam Ward is clearly the best QB and if he went to a good team he would be fine.

The rest are not starters. Sanders isn't a bad QB, but he gets hit sooooooooo much.

I thought Ewers was going to be way better this year, but his arm looked like it got weaker.

The rest are all exactly the same. I'd rather be a 3rd round pick to a decent team than a top 3 pick to someone who's awful. Then you're expected to work miracles.
Posted by Zip it blondie
Member since Aug 2023
683 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:54 am to
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So your evaluation of the two is what they did as a starter at Ohio State for one season a piece?


Seems like a more relevant sample to compare/contrast than it does factoring in what McCord did this year playing in a shite conference that is the ACC.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:55 am to
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That class is going to get a lot of coaches fired

And GM's
Posted by Friendly Satan
Member since Nov 2024
1609 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:59 am to
Kurtis Rourke!

Nok su cow, Kurt!
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14693 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:00 am to
What a shitty class. Sanders is such a wildcard to me after watching these past few years. I view his lack of oline to be a big detriment in his development as he became accustomed to bailing and the best QBs don’t rely on that.. Lamar, Allen, and the other top guys can sit and throw in the pocket.. Sanders has the ability but he has to prove that aspect
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68027 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:01 am to
Worst QB class I can remember
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14199 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:01 am to
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I would take McCord or Howard. Both will be good quarterbacks in the NFL


Very next sentence

quote:

The only game I saw of McCord this year was against Miami



This shite is so funny to me. People make brash statements like this
quote:

Both will be good quarterbacks in the NFL
then admit to only watching a couple snaps of that player.

fricking crazy
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34970 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:04 am to
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I think Kyle McCord is going to be a very good pro and the best QB in this class behind Ward


quote:

SteelerBravesDawg


Checks out
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12465 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:09 am to
I think Sanders would be the 6th or 7th best QB in last year's class.

For sure behind Williams, Daniels, Maye, Penix, and Nix. Toss up with McCarthy.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80517 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:15 am to
I think McCord has the arm and physical tools to be good, but he looked like he was about to throw up from nerves before nearly every game. I don't think he has the mental side to be a good pro. Dad won't be able to step in.

He's not as much of a mental headcase as Drew Allar though, so there's that.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:20 am to
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The rest are not starters. Sanders isn't a bad QB, but he gets hit sooooooooo much.

Shadeur will be a pretty good(not great) starter IMO. His football IQ is extremely high. His O-line at Colorado blew rancid arse.
Posted by slobhorn
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2023
163 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:21 am to
I wouldn't take a single one of these guys in the first round
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:21 am to
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KillerNut9

Dude you still think Fields is the second coming of Lamar so I don't wanna hear it from you.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11114 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:23 am to
Next year you'll have Nuss, Gabriel, Allar, and maybe Manning.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:23 am to
Someone late in the first or 2nd will get Dart and it will be really good value. Dude will probably at least be a solid career backup. Has a chance to become a good not great NFL QB.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4089 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:30 am to
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At Milroe at 4.
I wouldn’t draft him over 5-10. Unless you are drafting him as a RB


Do NFL GMs think he is magically going to gain 40 IQ points overnight? His problem isn't physicality, it's cognitive. He is too slow to process the game. It will show worse at NFL speed.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42174 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:30 am to
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think Sanders would be the 6th or 7th best QB in last year's class.

For sure behind Williams, Daniels, Maye, Penix, and Nix. Toss up with McCarthy.


Going by NFL Draft Buzz ratings, Shadeur would actually grade out as the 3rd best QB in last years draft with a 90.5 score. Based on their ratings, they actually got last years QB draft order correct.

Williams: 93.5
Daniels: 90.9
Maye: 90.1
Penix Jr. 89.8
Ward: 89.7
McCarthy: 87.7
Nix: 87.4
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11114 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:31 am to
Daniel Jones made a lot of money in the NFL. Dart can do the same!
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6861 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:33 am to
Cam Ward is the only one I'd even consider in the 1st round.
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