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re: McShay's top five for the '14 NFL Draft

Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:46 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:46 am to
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Most of the Top 5 need QB's not DE's.

every team needs more pass rushers
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:47 am to
If Norv is staying in Cleveland, JFF would be a horrible fit for his offense. I could see Bortles becoming the second coming of Gabbert.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:50 am to
Cleveland should upgrade the line and grab a QB with its second pick. Or wait and grab Boyd, Shaw, Mett, or someone lower and hope for the best.
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:03 am to
Almost every player in the NFL takes plays off. Clowney is hurt by the fact hes double teamed every play. If you try to watch him over a whole game thats all that happens. Like I said earlier look how the past couple years a SC d-lineman just puts up good numbers out of nowhere. Thats all Clowney
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 8:04 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:07 am to
If we hire mcdaniels, we won't be drafting Manziel
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:08 am to
he drafted fricking tim tebow....let's not rush to judgment
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:09 am to
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Cleveland should upgrade the line and grab a QB with its second pick. Or wait and grab Boyd, Shaw, Mett, or someone lower and hope for the best.


yeah this QB class doesn't seem to have much separation between #1 and #5

TB isn't a bad prospect, but he seems very far away from being worth the #1 overall pick
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:12 am to
I'd probably wait on Murray
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:13 am to
yeah i mean what is the real difference in bridgewater and murray?

both are about 6-1 and are mobile (not runners)

neither have a cannon and typically have solid accuracy
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:14 am to
Why do people like Murray so much? I really don't think hes that good.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:15 am to
Bridgewater vs RGIII?
Bridgewater seems to be a better passer coming out but he doesn't have the hype of RGIII. I think you put him in Cleveland with Gordon and Jordan already there he will be fine. They need a RB and a second safety value but he won't be asked to do a whole lot.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:16 am to
You've watched him play football and thought he wasn't good? I think he will be a solid QB for a borderline playoff team.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:17 am to
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Watson started and played in every game he was healthy for
huh? Seems like a shite bag argument, especially when his stat page on NFL.com says he played 5 games and started 3. I don't have a dog in yalls fight, but you seem to be talking out your arse
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:17 am to
RG3 was taller, a lot faster, and has a laser cannon attached to his shoulder
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
Member since Nov 2013
563 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:20 am to
I think he's alright but theres a lot of guys I like more. Btw Wikipedia says Bridgewater is 6'3". I dont think Murray has much of an arm, hes short, and he may not be as mobile coming off an ACL tear. Ive seen guys with better tools that will probably be available later like David Fales, Bret Smith, Jimmy Gappopolla(spelling may be wrong, from Eastern Illinois, look him up)
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:21 am to
Bridgewater listed 6'3"
RGIII listed 6'2"


I know neither are probably that tall IRL though
RGIII is faster and well I can't decipher arm as I only saw Bridgewater a handful of times in collge
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:28 am to
The Browns should draft Sammy Watkins with the 4th and take Carlos Hyde with the 22nd pick. Draft a QB in round 2/3 and let Hoyer get the oppurtunity to start. By adding Watkins, you move Greg Little to 3rd WR. That would be a nice 4some of Josh Gordon, Sammy Watkins, Greg Little and TE Jordan Cameron. Then you would have the power running back of Carlos Hyde and the off speed back of Dion Lewis. The Browns have the 2nd most money available in cap space, use that money to shore up the Oline and defense. Despite the record, the Browns arent as far away as most think. They led the first 7 games of the year at halftime. Now we just need a freaking head coach!!!
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:31 am to
Why would anyone take a RB in the first?
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
Member since Nov 2013
563 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:33 am to
Agree with Watkins but I think they should wait on an RB cause its a deep position. I think the should go OL or defensive playmaker there. Get your RB in 2/3rd round.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:33 am to
While many teams might believe that, imo Murray is going to be a mid round steal in this draft for some team. Dude put up some of the best numbers in SEC history and did it quietly while guys like Manziel who has s high bust potential got all the hype. Don't be surprised when Murray is one of the few QBs still starting from this class in a few years
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