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re: McShay's top five for the '14 NFL Draft

Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:10 am to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:10 am to
Kevin Matthews is on Jacksonville?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60334 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:13 am to
He's on the Titans. Cousins play for GB and PHI obviously
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:17 am to
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Kevin Matthews is on Jacksonville?


Oh wow.

My brain went Jake Matthews...has a brother.....Jake Long on the Rams...has a brother...both named Jake..they must be brothers!!

I need sleep
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 1:19 am
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17188 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:24 am to
Honestly, I'm ready to see what Manziel will do in the NFL. I think he'll end up being a damn good QB(I know I'm in the minority with that opinion on TD). I do think he'll struggle early in his career with turnover problems, because of his style of play, but he'll adapt to the game.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:41 am to
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Raiders drafted quite well last year.


No they didn't. They basically got a back up TE, DT and a solid starting LB. That's not drafting quite well. When you get next to nothing out 3 of your top 4 picks, that's drafting pretty poorly.
Posted by Flash_Gordon
Member since Dec 2013
522 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:30 am to
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Browns need to stock up on top flight WRs imo.



wut
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
66032 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:30 am to
Rivera is a starting TE, Moore a starting LB, and Watson started every game.

Wtf are you smoking?

Hayden is wait and see too injured to play much this year.

Drafted very well.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:31 am to


Clowney has bust written all over him..
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:35 am to
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
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7040 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:39 am to
Bridgewater at 1 is a joke. Guaranteed to be a bust in the league.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:07 am to
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Watson started every game.


Are you even a Raiders fan? He missed most of the season.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
66032 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:23 am to
Watson started and played in every game he was healthy for and did well.

And that's with missing training camp and rehabbing the same injury twice. He's penciled in as a starter next season.

I'd say that's solid.

Hayden will be good, Moore and Rivera are already good.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:42 am to
Disagree thing at the end of the day Maziel is much lower as an NFL player.
Posted by Ed Wuncler III
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:37 am to
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That would be incredibly stupid. Theres noone in the top 2 picks worth an extra first rounder


I dont disagree but I think franchises get way to set on getting their future QB and make silly mistakes. I think they should get Sammy Watkins first pick then OL with second first rounder. Grab a QB in the second round if you really want one. If they're patient about getting a QB and end up with a good one they could have an extremely scary offense with Gordon and Watkins.

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Also, I could see Tennessee making a move for Manziel.


Would be the worst move in the history of the franchise. We don't need a QB, Locker has played well when not injured and Fitz is a decent backup. If they really like one in the second grab them but be patient. Right now we need OT and pass rushers.

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I don't think Clowney busts at all, I think he'll be one of the best DE's in the NFL.


Most scouts say Clowney actually had a good year cause he played well, but was just double or triple teamed so much and I think they're right. Theres a reason the past couple years SC D-Lineman have breakout years. I think think this effort bullshite is overrated. Most players take plays off. Its the best players who dont and thats part of what makes them unique.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 5:46 am
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:40 am to
I would be livid if my team picked Manziel that high
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:55 am to
jags and browns will be drafting 1 and 2 next yr with those two picks. Bad teams continue to get worse when they waste first rd picks
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12874 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:27 am to
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I don't think any NFL GM cares about Clowney playing it safe in College to avoid injury.

Really just don't.

Being smart is not a fault.


(I'm pretty sure it was) bill polian on espn said that defensive ends taking plays off here or there isn't a huge concern as it's the most exhausting position and easy to tire out during a game chasing qb's and rb's all over the field.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 7:29 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:43 am to
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Agree or disagree?

JFF at #4 is fricking clown shoes
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:45 am to
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If i were Jacksonville or someone else in a state of perpetual terribleness i would just take a QB as a high pick every damn year. One of them is bound to pan out and its not gonna cost much to get rid of the shitty ones or have multiple qbs with that type of contract

that was my philosophy when the new CBA came out. i'm waiting for a team to start doing it
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33514 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:46 am to
Please please please let the Browns draft Manziel
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