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Maybe Dead Horse Situation, But has backup NFL QB play always been this bad?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:14 pm
Not trying to be nostalgia bro here but jesus, Hundley, Cockweiler, Savage, whoever the F is on the niners, Cassell... The list goes on.
These dudes have no business whatsoever getting a paycheck. What did Hundley have last week? 87 f-ing yards?
Cockweiler's QBR was 29 this week.
Savage threw his first TD in like 15 starts or something.
God knows who the Browns have.
Feel like there used to be guys like Collins, Vinny T, Grossman (realize he went to a SB as a starter) and Gannon at certain points in his career.
Can these teams/colleges really not field better players, just don't remember it being this bad.
These dudes have no business whatsoever getting a paycheck. What did Hundley have last week? 87 f-ing yards?
Cockweiler's QBR was 29 this week.
Savage threw his first TD in like 15 starts or something.
God knows who the Browns have.
Feel like there used to be guys like Collins, Vinny T, Grossman (realize he went to a SB as a starter) and Gannon at certain points in his career.
Can these teams/colleges really not field better players, just don't remember it being this bad.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 7:15 pm
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:16 pm to STLhog
tbh, the starting QB play has been bad the last 5 years or so outside of the top guys.
couldnt even name a good amount of the backups
couldnt even name a good amount of the backups
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:21 pm to STLhog
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has backup NFL QB play always been this bad?
Can you name a time when it was good? The few instances I can think of the backup either kept the starting job or was traded to be a starter elsewhere.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:23 pm to STLhog
What pisses me off is teams will continually play shitty veterans as backups rather than give a young guy a shot. Like the Titans refusing to give Alex Tanney a chance when he looks pretty damn good each preseason.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:24 pm to STLhog
There’s only about 20 people in the whole world that are good at QB. The rest are a crapshoot.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:31 pm to STLhog
Practice time has been drastically reduced and most college teams aren't running the types of offense used in the NFL.
This is why backups look like trash.
This is why backups look like trash.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:49 pm to Dr RC
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most college teams aren't running the types of offense used in the NFL
I think this is the main reason. There are very few Mariotas and Watsons out there that can run a spread in college and also be effective at throwing from the pocket in the NFL.
This issue may have even worked its way down to the high school level where potential pocket passers that are not great athletes don't even play QB in HS anymore and end up being baseball players.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:54 pm to STLhog
Bubby Brister used to come in and wreck shite
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:55 pm to gamatt53
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Can you name a time when it was good? The few instances I can think of the backup either kept the starting job or was traded to be a starter elsewhere.
Early 90s Jeff hosteler and Frank Reich come to mind. Hell Frank Reich may be the best pure backup qb ever( don't consider Steve young a backup).
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:55 pm to BCMCubs
Bubby was the man
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:57 pm to BCMCubs
Gus frerotte was decent until he headbutted that wall
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:01 pm to jefforize
Aaron Brooks thank you for your service.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:06 pm to STLhog
Backups have always been the same. Before the rule changes, most offenses were built around running backs, so the backup qbs' passing abilities weren't depended on as much as they are now.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:15 pm to STLhog
Elvis Grbac lit it up for a while. Jay Fieldler and Scott Mitchell too.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:23 pm to STLhog
The Vikings are doing alright with their third-string QB
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:35 pm to VOLhalla
Jake Delhomme for the win
And all of the various Billy Joes amongst the years for the Saints
And Jeff Hostetler won a SB as a backup for Phil Simms
And all of the various Billy Joes amongst the years for the Saints
And Jeff Hostetler won a SB as a backup for Phil Simms
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:42 pm to STLhog
The backups never get to play, even in garbage time, unless the starter is hurt. Take over,kid.
It seems you would see a backup come in and take a few snaps back in the day. But no lead is safe these days, so you see Drew Brees out there even if it’s just take a knee time.
It seems you would see a backup come in and take a few snaps back in the day. But no lead is safe these days, so you see Drew Brees out there even if it’s just take a knee time.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:19 pm to STLhog
The NFLs problem is bad qb play. That’s the main reason people lost interest. The rest just piled on top of that
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:25 pm to Pelican fan99
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The NFLs problem is bad qb play.
I've seen a lot of different reasons posted why the NFL is slumping.
one of the go-to lines use to be that the rules were slanted towards the offense and its impossible to play defense anymore. Not saying that teams are world beaters this year on defense but I think we get caught up talking about so much other crap about the NFL that better defensive play is overlooked.
course, lot of that is because of bad QB play
even still though, I think defenses are underrated just because of the narrative that's been beaten into our heads the last few years.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 9:27 pm
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