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re: Manziel accused of trashing mansion, 'coke all over the table'

Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:45 am to
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39418 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:45 am to
He is obviously an addict, DOC is irrelevant. He is displaying addict behavior it isn't even debatable
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34871 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:45 am to
Yes



BenchMcElroy already nailed this one on the head
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27827 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:46 am to
Bruh I have a ton of experience with addiction and

quote:

Something along the way stunts their mental growth and their outlet becomes some form of learned substance or behavior.


just is not accurate across the board. Some people are born pre disposed to addiction, yes. There are a ton of other factors as well.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:52 am to
But even pre disposed addictions are learned, are they not? Meaning, a child who is five isn't craving liquor. At some point that child gets his first taste of liquor and mentally trains himself that liquor > certain life obligations. They're definitely more prone to the addiction, I agree, but somewhere along the line they are mentally overtaken(which would lead back to stunted mental growth).
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79932 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:53 am to
I don't understand how there was coke left all over the table the morning after.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:53 am to
Addicts and former addicts know if you are an addict. That dude is an addict. I don't know how anyone could dispute that.
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:54 am to
He's displaying severe addiction symptoms. Hell, he's thrown away MILLIONS and a career in the NFL over drugs. I stopped defending him shortly after his last year at A&M, but now I just hope he doesn't end up dead. If he doesn't get help (or if nobody forces him in to an institution), he will be in everybody's celebrity death pool if he isn't already.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 11:57 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:58 am to
quote:

They were supposed to check out at noon. Manziel was passed out. ... There was cocaine all over the kitchen table, and mushrooms were still out on the table in front of him. There was booze everywhere...broken glasses over the floor and a champagne glass in a tree. If they don't respond to our demand for compensation, we will sue.


Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100467 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:59 am to
Wow, imagine if he was even of average looks... he'd be in even worse shape with the partying
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100467 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:01 pm to
yeah I admit that doesn't look terrible.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33084 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:15 pm to
over/under on the year that the 30/30 johnny manziel comes out?

im going with 2018
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19010 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:18 pm to
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and a champagne glass in a tree.


Sounds like the end of a Christmas song.

It seems he got a few tosses in at least
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27827 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Addicts and former addicts know if you are an addict.


Preach
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34744 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:33 pm to
Who knew his partying would be such a problem? Such a shocker for everyone.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100467 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:37 pm to
It's weird how we can all look collectively look at Gronk and realize that his partying is awesome, acceptable bro partying and then we look at Manziel and realize that he's on most celebrity death pools and has a serious problem
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 12:38 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27827 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:38 pm to
It's not the amount of a substance you take that makes you an addict, it's the reason, the way it impacts the rest of your life, and ability to stop at any time.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:40 pm to
I want the Manziel and Gordon reality show now!
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37772 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:42 pm to
He needs to pace himself if he wants to make the 27 club
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38989 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:42 pm to
Trashed?

I know what you think it means, sonny. To me, it's just a made up word, a tabloid word, so that young fellas like yourself can click on a link and read a story to feel better about themselves. What do you really wanna know? Am I sorry for what I did?
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12112 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:42 pm to
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If he doesn't get help (or if nobody forces him in to an institution), he will be in everybody's celebrity death pool if he isn't already.


What typically sucks the most is that someone like this has to want to help themselves before anything or anyone else can do something about it. I have someone in my life who has been given every chance in the world for over 14 years, and still chooses the way of addiction and bad people/choices/you name it.

THe people in this situation normally think they have it all figured out, they know what's best for them, and that they certainly don't have a problem. You can't tell them anything. It is either going to take something coming into his life that he thinks is worth living for, God, or some near death experience to finally get through to him. No amount of rehab or begging will help him until he wants to be helped. You can take that to the bank

And to those arguing about whether he's an addict? You kidding me bra
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 12:44 pm
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