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Manfred looking at limits on relief pitchers

Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted by tccdc
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:26 pm
ESPN


"You know the problem with relief pitchers is that they're so good. I've got nothing against relief pitchers but they do two things to the game; the pitching changes themselves slow the game down and our relief pitchers have become so dominate at the back end that they actually rob action out of the end of the game, the last few innings of the game. So relief pitchers is a topic that is under active consideration. We're talking about that a lot internally."


I am torn on this, but his statement stinks.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:28 pm to
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our relief pitchers have become so dominate at the back end that they actually rob action out of the end of the game, the last few innings of the game


this is stupid reason to me

eta: And if the issue is the game slowing down, then put some stricter time limits for guys to come in the game. Oh youre changing pitchers? Ok you have 2 minutes until that guy has to throw a pitch. No slow walk out to the mound b.s. for him to get ready, and talk to the pitcher, and a bunch of warm ups. Hes gotta be ready to go now.

eta2:

ALSO, the two reasons contradict each other. Dominant pitching = faster games.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted by tccdc
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:31 pm to
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this is stupid reason to me


How about the batters do better...
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22856 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:31 pm to
What are they going to do? Make starters pitch all 9 innings no matter what?
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:31 pm to
I can think of a half dozen rule changes I would implement before this. As a novice MLB fan, this seems like a gross overstep of power.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38131 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

I've got nothing against relief pitchers but they do two things to the game; the pitching changes themselves slow the game down and our relief pitchers have become so dominate at the back end that they actually rob action out of the end of the game


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

As a novice MLB fan, this seems like a gross overstep of power
In fairness, nothing has happened, we don't know what, if any, actual changes are coming.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60215 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:32 pm to
Awful. There are better ways to speed up play and "they're too good" is about as bad as a reason could get for limiting the use of a type of player in pro sports. I imagine the MLBPA will have serious issues with this if they start marginalizing the earning potential for relievers and simultaneously increasing the stress and injury risk for starters
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted by McCaigBro69
TigerDroppings Premium Member
Member since Oct 2014
45088 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:34 pm to
Make roids legal. That'll fix it.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Awful. There are better ways to speed up play and "they're too good" is about as bad as a reason could get for limiting the use of a type of player in pro sports


Pardon my ignorance, but how will this speed the game up. Wouldn't more pitching changes and increased offense in late innings increase game lengths?
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:38 pm to
How about the pitch clock in between pitches that is currently in play in the minors? I know it would probably have to be collectively bargained, but that would be a way to speed things up, rather than neutering dominant relievers.

I feel like the improvements they have made the past couple years (clock between innings, clock for mound visits, batter's box rules) have helped to speed the game up. On the other hand, I don't really care if a ballgame takes 4.5 hours to finish, I'll watch regardless.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60215 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:40 pm to
Mid inning pitching changes take a decent amount of time. I think it would save a little bit of time but it could be washed out by the increased offense. I don't know, it's a horrendous idea though
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:48 pm to
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have become so dominate

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:53 pm to
This is the opposite of the NBA...where free throw shooting sucks by big men, so they can adopt a rule to limit fouling.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76692 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:54 pm to
There's plenty of scoring in MLB right now. The game is fine. Just like the idea of taking away the lowest part of the current strike zone, this is also a stupid idea.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12385 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:57 pm to
How in the world could he intervene with a rule that forces Managers to put other pitchers at risk of injury?
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3903 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:02 pm to
Bring back the bullpen car!

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:02 pm to
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How in the world could he intervene with a rule that forces Managers to put other pitchers at risk of injury?
He won't.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25180 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:13 pm to
Depends on what he means. If he want to end the righty up switch, lefty up switch, righty up switch in an inning by saying you can switch twice and inning or once an inning, that wouldn't be so bad. If he wants to limit how many pitchers can be used in a single game, I don't think that is all that great.
Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11816 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:21 pm to
Need more offense
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