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re: Manfred: MLB will propose automated ball/strike challenge for 2026

Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1144 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:07 pm to
What year was the umpire auditor created
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
16914 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Why would you not like this?


I’m not against it, but I still hate manfred
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
6581 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:18 pm to
If this was the rule years ago, the Braves never would have won the series let alone get to it. Maddox lived 6” outside the corner.
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
1665 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:45 pm to
Eh, most every change they’ve made the last few years, I’ve ended up liking. I just wish the EI base runner started in the 12th.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3351 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:19 pm to
Those scumbags can get the hell over it! They did this to themselves with their stupidity!
Posted by Barbados
Member since Nov 2024
1955 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:23 pm to
Lots of people were grumpy when tennis switched to all automated calls a couple years ago but now no one complains about it

Same will happen with baseball
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
16914 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:32 pm to
Adding the DH to the NL will forever make me hate manfred
Posted by northeasttiger
New York
Member since Sep 2008
2583 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 6:36 am to
The extra inning rule should be .

10th normal
11th start on first
12th on start on second
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51907 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:46 am to
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this was the rule years ago, the Braves never would have won the series let alone get to it. Maddox lived 6” outside the corner.


When you have control like Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine and hit your spots you should get calls… two of the GOATs
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
6941 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:20 am to
Like, October 1985 overdue.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
15590 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:24 am to
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And tell the call to the home plate umpire in an ear piece instantaneously. In fact, all umpires can have one ear piece in just for redundancy and so they all know the calls. The robot can call ball or strike truly immediately. Best of both worlds: Call is always right, ump gets to be dramatic. I don't want the fun strike three calls going away.
Third benefit - ump immediately knows if he’s consistently missing something that day and can adjust, making them look better and reducing need for challenges

If they aren’t bitches about it things can work out for everyone
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by IggyReilly
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2015
144 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:32 am to
I'll admit I've always been kind of a traditionalist in this regard. I liked the fact that there was a human element to the game and that pitchers and batters needed to make adjustments, protect and expand their zone with two strikes, hit their spots if they wanted the corner, etc. That's the way the game has been for 150 years and for the vast majority of that time everyone knew and accepted it. But even I have to admit this is long overdue. No fans these days want a "human element" they just want the call to be right. And the tech is there so why not use it?

The only bad thing is this will cut down severely on the number of manager/umpire arguments and ejections. Jomboy breakdowns about to take a hit

Also, my predication is that this will help batters more than pitchers, which is a good thing since pitching has become more and more dominant over the years. This is purely my own anecdotal evidence from a lifetime of watching games so maybe the analytics don't back this up, but I just feel like historically there are way more instances of pitchers getting the benefit of the doubt than there are of them getting squeezed. That's just the way it always was for a longtime. Hit your spot with two strikes and you'd get a little leeway off the plate. Anything that can shift a bit of the advantage back to hitters and help get more batted balls in play I'm all for.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
15590 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:41 am to
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I liked the fact that there was a human element to the game and that pitchers and batters needed to make adjustments, protect and expand their zone with two strikes, hit their spots if they wanted the corner, etc
If the human (variable) element of the game is consistent it’s one thing. But if blue is not consistent over the course of a game, the human element shifts from romantic ideal to dystopian. That just pisses everyone off, which is less attractive than getting calls perfectly right. To me at least
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The only bad thing is this will cut down severely on the number of manager/umpire arguments and ejections.
I feel like all these interesting baserunner interference interpretations are going to carry the load to make up
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Also, my predication is that this will help batters more than pitchers
Think it’s a given. Hitters will still have to protect on strike 2, but they will at least know they don’t have to chase an additional 2-3 inches off the plate if blue was being generous
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 11:44 am
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
2349 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:42 am to
It should only be specifically for either a strike 3 or a ball 4.
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
2349 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:46 am to
Regardless of whether the American League should have adopted the DH in 1973, it was pretty necessary for the National League once the American League, the minor leagues, college and high school adopted the DH. Before 1973, pitchers usually had a batting average of about .174, according to Google AI. The batting average of pitchers before 1973 was low but arguably tolerable. But once everything except for the National League adopted the DH, pitchers were never batting until they got to the National League, and pitchers in the National League usually were batting something like .050. It was really hideous to watch.

TBH, I probably would have preferred it if the designated hitter had never been invented in the first place and we still could watch pitchers get a hit a low but not completely intolerable 17.4% of the time. But by 2022, you weren't going to reverse 50 years of history and get every league except for the NL to have pitchers bat again. So the NL really had no choice but to adopt the DH.
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 11:56 am
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
1665 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:41 pm to
That’s probably the best change they’ve made.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59827 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:21 pm to
I’ll never understand how anyone can watch and enjoy the MLB anymore. I’m someone who used to watch about 100 Yankee games a year but now I can’t even watch a single game. It’s not baseball
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
1665 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 7:19 pm to
Why can’t you understand it?
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
16914 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:18 am to
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But once everything except for the National League adopted the DH, pitchers were never batting until they got to the National League, and pitchers in the National League usually were batting something like .050.


Not true
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
6581 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:31 am to
Both hit their spots off the corners. If the umpires were proficient and required those two medium speed pitchers to throw the ball over the plate, the Braves would have been no better than a 0.500 team.
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