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Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:09 pm to witty alias
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Why would you not like this?
I’m not against it, but I still hate manfred
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:18 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
If this was the rule years ago, the Braves never would have won the series let alone get to it. Maddox lived 6” outside the corner.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:45 pm to cubsfan5150
Eh, most every change they’ve made the last few years, I’ve ended up liking. I just wish the EI base runner started in the 12th.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:19 pm to chalmetteowl
Those scumbags can get the hell over it! They did this to themselves with their stupidity!
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:23 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Lots of people were grumpy when tennis switched to all automated calls a couple years ago but now no one complains about it
Same will happen with baseball
Same will happen with baseball
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:32 pm to witty alias
Adding the DH to the NL will forever make me hate manfred
Posted on 6/6/25 at 6:36 am to cubsfan5150
The extra inning rule should be .
10th normal
11th start on first
12th on start on second
10th normal
11th start on first
12th on start on second
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:46 am to Deplorableinohio
quote:
this was the rule years ago, the Braves never would have won the series let alone get to it. Maddox lived 6” outside the corner.
When you have control like Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine and hit your spots you should get calls… two of the GOATs
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:20 am to GeauxPanthers2
Like, October 1985 overdue.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:24 am to CatfishJohn
quote:Third benefit - ump immediately knows if he’s consistently missing something that day and can adjust, making them look better and reducing need for challenges
And tell the call to the home plate umpire in an ear piece instantaneously. In fact, all umpires can have one ear piece in just for redundancy and so they all know the calls. The robot can call ball or strike truly immediately. Best of both worlds: Call is always right, ump gets to be dramatic. I don't want the fun strike three calls going away.
If they aren’t bitches about it things can work out for everyone
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:32 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I'll admit I've always been kind of a traditionalist in this regard. I liked the fact that there was a human element to the game and that pitchers and batters needed to make adjustments, protect and expand their zone with two strikes, hit their spots if they wanted the corner, etc. That's the way the game has been for 150 years and for the vast majority of that time everyone knew and accepted it. But even I have to admit this is long overdue. No fans these days want a "human element" they just want the call to be right. And the tech is there so why not use it?
The only bad thing is this will cut down severely on the number of manager/umpire arguments and ejections. Jomboy breakdowns about to take a hit
Also, my predication is that this will help batters more than pitchers, which is a good thing since pitching has become more and more dominant over the years. This is purely my own anecdotal evidence from a lifetime of watching games so maybe the analytics don't back this up, but I just feel like historically there are way more instances of pitchers getting the benefit of the doubt than there are of them getting squeezed. That's just the way it always was for a longtime. Hit your spot with two strikes and you'd get a little leeway off the plate. Anything that can shift a bit of the advantage back to hitters and help get more batted balls in play I'm all for.
The only bad thing is this will cut down severely on the number of manager/umpire arguments and ejections. Jomboy breakdowns about to take a hit

Also, my predication is that this will help batters more than pitchers, which is a good thing since pitching has become more and more dominant over the years. This is purely my own anecdotal evidence from a lifetime of watching games so maybe the analytics don't back this up, but I just feel like historically there are way more instances of pitchers getting the benefit of the doubt than there are of them getting squeezed. That's just the way it always was for a longtime. Hit your spot with two strikes and you'd get a little leeway off the plate. Anything that can shift a bit of the advantage back to hitters and help get more batted balls in play I'm all for.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:41 am to IggyReilly
quote:If the human (variable) element of the game is consistent it’s one thing. But if blue is not consistent over the course of a game, the human element shifts from romantic ideal to dystopian. That just pisses everyone off, which is less attractive than getting calls perfectly right. To me at least
I liked the fact that there was a human element to the game and that pitchers and batters needed to make adjustments, protect and expand their zone with two strikes, hit their spots if they wanted the corner, etc
quote:I feel like all these interesting baserunner interference interpretations are going to carry the load to make up
The only bad thing is this will cut down severely on the number of manager/umpire arguments and ejections.

quote:Think it’s a given. Hitters will still have to protect on strike 2, but they will at least know they don’t have to chase an additional 2-3 inches off the plate if blue was being generous
Also, my predication is that this will help batters more than pitchers
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 11:44 am
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:42 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
It should only be specifically for either a strike 3 or a ball 4.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:46 am to cubsfan5150
Regardless of whether the American League should have adopted the DH in 1973, it was pretty necessary for the National League once the American League, the minor leagues, college and high school adopted the DH. Before 1973, pitchers usually had a batting average of about .174, according to Google AI. The batting average of pitchers before 1973 was low but arguably tolerable. But once everything except for the National League adopted the DH, pitchers were never batting until they got to the National League, and pitchers in the National League usually were batting something like .050. It was really hideous to watch.
TBH, I probably would have preferred it if the designated hitter had never been invented in the first place and we still could watch pitchers get a hit a low but not completely intolerable 17.4% of the time. But by 2022, you weren't going to reverse 50 years of history and get every league except for the NL to have pitchers bat again. So the NL really had no choice but to adopt the DH.
TBH, I probably would have preferred it if the designated hitter had never been invented in the first place and we still could watch pitchers get a hit a low but not completely intolerable 17.4% of the time. But by 2022, you weren't going to reverse 50 years of history and get every league except for the NL to have pitchers bat again. So the NL really had no choice but to adopt the DH.
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 11:56 am
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:41 pm to cubsfan5150
That’s probably the best change they’ve made.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:21 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I’ll never understand how anyone can watch and enjoy the MLB anymore. I’m someone who used to watch about 100 Yankee games a year but now I can’t even watch a single game. It’s not baseball
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:18 am to UFFan
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But once everything except for the National League adopted the DH, pitchers were never batting until they got to the National League, and pitchers in the National League usually were batting something like .050.
Not true
Posted on 6/7/25 at 10:31 am to chalmetteowl
Both hit their spots off the corners. If the umpires were proficient and required those two medium speed pitchers to throw the ball over the plate, the Braves would have been no better than a 0.500 team.
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