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Major League Baseball Needs a Salary Cap.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:40 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:40 am
Since 1992 (30 years), only 3 teams from outside of the Top 11 largest metros in the US & Canada, has won a World Series (Kansas City, Boston* & St Louis*). Without a Salary Cap, is this becoming a bigger and bigger problem for MLB? Does something need to be done to fix this ridiculous inbalance?
1992 - Toronto Blue Jays (#1 Canada)
1993 - Toronto Blue Jays #1
1994 - N/A
1995 - Atlanta Braves #8
1996 - NY Yankees #1
1997 - Miami Marlins #9
1998 - NY Yankees #1
1999 - NY Yankees #1
2000 - NY Yankees #1
2001 - Arizona Diamondback #10
2002 - Los Angeles Angels #2
2003 - Miami Marlins #9
2004 - Boston Red Sox #11
2005 - Chicago White Sox #3
2006 - St Louis Cardinals #21
2007 - Boston Red Sox #11
2008 - Philadelphia Phillies #7
2009 - NY Yankees #1
2010 - San Francisco Giants #4
2011 - St Louis Cardinals #21
2012 - San Francisco Giants #4
2013 - Boston Red Sox #11
2014 - San Francisco Giants #4
2015 - Kansas City Royals #31
2016 - Chicago Cubs #3
2017 - Houston Astros #5
2018 - Boston Red Sox #11
2019 - Washington Nationals #6
2020 - Los Angeles Dodgers #2
2021 - Atlanta Braves #8
2022 - Houston/Philadelphia #5, #7
Lets be real, two of those teams from outside the Top 10 are Boston and St Louis, which are historical "blue bloods" of the sport. So in reality, its only Kansas City that's been able to win the World Series from outside the top 10. How do these small markets compete against this model without a hard salary cap? Yes there will always be flashes in the pan like KC 15', but those are the exceptions. I think in the long run, this will be something that MLB truly has to look at.
1992 - Toronto Blue Jays (#1 Canada)
1993 - Toronto Blue Jays #1
1994 - N/A
1995 - Atlanta Braves #8
1996 - NY Yankees #1
1997 - Miami Marlins #9
1998 - NY Yankees #1
1999 - NY Yankees #1
2000 - NY Yankees #1
2001 - Arizona Diamondback #10
2002 - Los Angeles Angels #2
2003 - Miami Marlins #9
2004 - Boston Red Sox #11
2005 - Chicago White Sox #3
2006 - St Louis Cardinals #21
2007 - Boston Red Sox #11
2008 - Philadelphia Phillies #7
2009 - NY Yankees #1
2010 - San Francisco Giants #4
2011 - St Louis Cardinals #21
2012 - San Francisco Giants #4
2013 - Boston Red Sox #11
2014 - San Francisco Giants #4
2015 - Kansas City Royals #31
2016 - Chicago Cubs #3
2017 - Houston Astros #5
2018 - Boston Red Sox #11
2019 - Washington Nationals #6
2020 - Los Angeles Dodgers #2
2021 - Atlanta Braves #8
2022 - Houston/Philadelphia #5, #7
Lets be real, two of those teams from outside the Top 10 are Boston and St Louis, which are historical "blue bloods" of the sport. So in reality, its only Kansas City that's been able to win the World Series from outside the top 10. How do these small markets compete against this model without a hard salary cap? Yes there will always be flashes in the pan like KC 15', but those are the exceptions. I think in the long run, this will be something that MLB truly has to look at.
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:43 am to Buckeye Backer
I think you’re onto something my good friend
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:46 am to Buckeye Backer
But wouldn't teams that are in the running add salary at the deadline?
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:50 am to Buckeye Backer
Wanting MLB to get a salary cap is like wanting universal health care in the U.S. Should it happen? Absolutely. Will it happen? 0% chance.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:51 am to Buckeye Backer
I remember when we went from World Series contender to getting swept to the becoming the Lastros and Disastros.
I don’t think we’ve ever hit the cap.
I don’t think we’ve ever hit the cap.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:52 am to Buckeye Backer
Sure, but we need to also force small markets to invest luxury tax money long term in players and not put it in owners pockets.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:00 am to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:19 am to Buckeye Backer
I don't see a problem there in recent years. Even leagues with a salary cap, the biggest spending teams are the ones that win championships. And I mean, it makes sense. Why would a team that is 15th in spending expect to win it all?
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:25 am to AUCE05
There is a de facto cap right now. The hits a team takes for going over the luxury tax threshold and staying there are pretty stringent.
A bigger problem is franchises like Pittsburgh and their $16 million payroll. That's a freaking joke. That said, Cleveland $22.8 million, Baltimore $14 million, and Tampa $37.5 million, all had payrolls at the bottom of MLB and had strong seasons. But, in general, if there is a max there should be a minimum level too given the revenue sharing.
A bigger problem is franchises like Pittsburgh and their $16 million payroll. That's a freaking joke. That said, Cleveland $22.8 million, Baltimore $14 million, and Tampa $37.5 million, all had payrolls at the bottom of MLB and had strong seasons. But, in general, if there is a max there should be a minimum level too given the revenue sharing.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:38 am to SoDakHawk
Should let Dave dombroqski be the gm of every team at the same time.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:40 am to Bench McElroy
quote:
Wanting MLB to get a salary cap is like wanting universal health care in the U.S. Should it happen? Absolutely. Will it happen? 0% chance.
Yeah, the government does such a great job with everything it touches
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:44 am to Buckeye Backer
A lot of those teams on your list used a lot of home grown talent and then went out and paid a few big guys to get them over the edge.
#31 typically doesn't win because #31 is typically tanking anyways.
#31 typically doesn't win because #31 is typically tanking anyways.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:47 am to SoDakHawk
quote:
That said, Cleveland $22.8 million, Baltimore $14 million, and Tampa $37.5 million, all had payrolls at the bottom of MLB and had strong seasons. But, in general, if there is a max there should be a minimum level too given the revenue sharing.
I think those teams took the Astroball approach by building through the draft and farm leagues with the occasional acquisition. So you end up getting a really young core that doesn't break the bank. But then they all come due around the same time and you have to let a few walk.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:52 am to Buckeye Backer
Metro area is a bad way to rank teams
Miami is a big metro but nobody goes to Marlins games
Plus the Cardinals are a perennial contender in bottom third.
Miami is a big metro but nobody goes to Marlins games
Plus the Cardinals are a perennial contender in bottom third.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 8:54 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:04 am to SoDakHawk
Those franchises are defecto AAAA. They complain like the OP, but sell their elite players to the highest bidder and not invest in their long-term product. They are always talking about relocation. Not because of fan support, but because they refuse to put out a consistent product. I don't feel sorry for them.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:05 am to Bench McElroy
quote:
like wanting universal health care in the U.S. Should it happen? Absolutely
ewww, what a shite analogy.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:07 am to Buckeye Backer
is there a chart with the teams salary rank?
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:12 am to Buckeye Backer
Dude, MLB clubs are printing money. Only the NFL makes more revenue than MLB. If a club isn’t spending money to make their team better, it’s because they don’t want to, not because other teams have more money to spend.
ETA: if anything, they need a spending minimum.
ETA: if anything, they need a spending minimum.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 9:16 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:42 am to The Eric
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I think those teams took the Astroball approach by building through the draft and farm leagues with the occasional acquisition. So you end up getting a really young core that doesn't break the bank. But then they all come due around the same time and you have to let a few walk.
No, what happens is the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers etc etc just buy them from the smaller markets. Everyone knows it...and there has to be a better way for the smaller market teams to be more than just a farm system for the major markets. Period!!
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:43 am to sorantable
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ETA: if anything, they need a spending minimum
I wouldn't be opposed to that, but MLB needs a hard cap and everybody knows it. I mean, the proof is in the very first post!!
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