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Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:35 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:meh....
It will the SWC all over again. The "Leg" can be happy and the Texas teams will fall behind everyone else.
I still think its just as likely that ND, BYU and a couple of other big names,, maybe FSU join Texas, A&M, OU in a superconference,,
the TV deal given to Texas makes the big 12 appealing to a ND for that reason.
they can be in a conference and still maintain an independent TV contract.
Baylor, Tech OSU, Kansas, Mizzou, will just be glad to share in the joint revenue generated by that alignment,, and focus on basketball as the signature sport.
Neither a&m not UT can join another conference without the Leg's permission. and regardless of what BIG DONORS think or say neither Texas not A&M administrations want to split.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:50 pm to OWLFAN86
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I still think its just as likely that ND, BYU and a couple of other big names,, maybe FSU join Texas, A&M, OU in a superconference,,
I see no reason any of those teams would join a hodge podge conference.
Take BYU and adjust your baseball and basketball schedule to them, that will go over well with every one else.
ND makes less off their NBC deal than the teams in the B1G, why would they join anothter FB conference? As it is they get all their bowl revenue, why split?
The Texas Leg can control A&M, but not OU. If OU and say FSU join the SEC, what then? TT can find a place in a big conference, it would be very short sighted to insist all those schools stay together.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
I'm enjoying this conversation about the Texas Legislature.
Some people have no idea the dynamics of what has happened over the past 9 months.
I'll just sit back and enjoy.
Some people have no idea the dynamics of what has happened over the past 9 months.
I'll just sit back and enjoy.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:40 pm to Ball Gravy
Owlvis works or has worked for the Leg, so i wouldn't completely dismiss his view. But i think the insistance that everyone stay together is a bit over blown.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:45 pm to iHorn
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some non-athletic content such as campus musical performances.
311 or Widespread Panic?
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:49 pm to teke184
quote:Do you have a link to the new revenue sharing % or numbers?
The conference guaranteed large sums to Texas, Oklahoma, and A&M at the expense of the other schools in order to keep A&M from leaving for the SEC and/or Texas et all leaving for the Pac Ten.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:59 pm to GeauxTigersLee
LINK
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Texas officials admitted this summer that the possibility of a Big 12 without a conference championship game enticed them. It's one less obstacle to getting into a BCS bowl. And with those BCS bowls comes big money. With unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12 continuing in the 10-team conference, Texas is set up to receive a massive chunk of that BCS cash. Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M are now the upper class of the Big 12 — all promised $20 million annually this summer.
Some argue that promising those schools big bucks was the only way to keep the conference together, but the only way to deliver on the promise was to keep the unequal revenue sharing.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:01 pm to GeauxTigersLee
Yet another example of the ongoing destruction of CFB. Strong conferences make for more appealing match-ups overall especially during bowl season. With this deal the Big 12-2 is done, they just have to wait for it to die.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:01 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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Owlvis works or has worked for the Leg, so i wouldn't completely dismiss his view. But i think the insistance that everyone stay together is a bit over blown.
I'm not saying he doesn't have any insight into this, but people are making some pretty "for sure" statements that they know for sure something will or will not happen.
I bet most of these people couldn't name 2 of the people who are key cogs to the decisions being made between the A&M and Texas parties.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:07 pm to Ball Gravy
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Expect a June announcement from A&M that they are no longer apart of the Big 12-2. Bookmark this post.
I forget what happened last time with all of this, but didn't everyone pretty much know Texas was going to do this or at least was going in that direction? So why didn't A&M bail last year? Did they want to wait for it to be official?
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:16 pm to NOSA
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Some people have no idea the dynamics of what has happened over the past 9 months.
I know what happened. You can bet your life that A&M is not going to the SEC without Texas Tech (and probably Baylor).
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:17 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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You can bet your life that A&M is not going to the SEC without Texas Tech (and probably Baylor).
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:19 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:Baylor...Not going to happen imo.
You can bet your life that A&M is not going to the SEC without Texas Tech (and probably Baylor).
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:24 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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I know what happened. You can bet your life that A&M is not going to the SEC without Texas Tech (and probably Baylor).
No, you obviously don't by this statement.
If you'd like to discuss this outside of this thread, let me know, and i'll hand out my personal email and we can discuss what is different NOW versus what the landscape was in April-May of last year.
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:28 pm to Helo
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Yet another example of the ongoing destruction of CFB. Strong conferences make for more appealing match-ups overall especially during bowl season. With this deal the Big 12-2 is done, they just have to wait for it to die.
I know i wish the B12 had stayed together, but i think their scheduling system ruined it for Nebraska.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:37 pm to Ball Gravy
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No, you obviously don't by this statement.
don't pay him too much attention, he's a horntard. He thinks playing A&M cost UT in 2008 because after than game they fell behind OU in the BCS. I'm still trying to figure out how A&M hurt UT more than OU
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:38 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:baylor is a non factor
know what happened. You can bet your life that A&M is not going to the SEC without Texas Tech (and probably Baylor).
Tech,, has SOME skin in the game but UT A&M will do what they do regardless of tech, or UH or any other state controlled institution
there are only TWO issues that matter
Money
and who gets that money
thats it,, good football, bad football , rivalries, etc NONE of that matters ,, those may be used as excuses,, but at the end of the day its about the $$$
UT and A&M and the controlling factors in the State and within the institutions themselves would not allow a move to the SEC unless in SEC addressed the academics ( which the big 10 was forced to do,,and that had as much to do with the demise of Neb. as anything) the SEC with the hodgepodge of differing states and the long standing practices wont do that
St Sen Florence Shapiro who IS one of the major players, will not allow a lowering of standards and A&m wont go to the SEC with its hands tied behind it competitive back
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:42 pm to CajunFootball
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Not for LSU it ain't. If we get OU an aTm over Bama every year then I'm happy.
Pussy.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:43 pm to OWLFAN86
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St Sen Florence Shapiro who IS one of the major players, will not allow a lowering of standards and A&m wont go to the SEC with its hands tied behind it competitive back
Good job, you do know some of the wizards in this, but what you fail to address is the resolution to this exact problem. As a matter of fact, A&M got their ducks lined up in this regards as recently as the end of the regular CFB season. A&M moved very fast on this during the summer months.
You're right, A&M wasn't going to the SEC without an academic curriculum that was "athlete friendly" and not called AgDev or AgEco... They have that completed, and without the lowering of academic admissions for JUCO or High School players.
By the way, every other point you hit on is correct. It has nothing to do with Tech or Baylor NOW.... In 1996 it had everything to do with Tech or Baylor.
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