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LIV golf to be rated by Nielsen this year. So ratings will be readily available for events
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:04 am
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:04 am
Good. Everyone is happy here. Now we can all stop fighting and be objective which tour is winning 
friends to a 2024 where we don’t have to fight anymore
A little caveat though, LIV isn’t going to release the data for whatever reason, so, people will still have to dig a little for it
Their quote is beautiful
friends to a 2024 where we don’t have to fight anymore A little caveat though, LIV isn’t going to release the data for whatever reason, so, people will still have to dig a little for it
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LIV GOLF’s broadcast on the CW will be rated this year through iSpot and Nielsen but the league says they won’t regularly be releasing viewership data.
Their quote is beautiful
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 8:11 am
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Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:32 am to lsupride87
So, only ratings in the US?
Didn’t they just announce a partnership with Movistar Plus+ to broadcast tournaments in Spain?
Didn’t they just announce a partnership with Movistar Plus+ to broadcast tournaments in Spain?
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:40 am to JimTiger72
If you would like to add the ratings for the pga tour in Europe(SkySports) as well then sure, it makes sense to also use LIV European numbers
I mean I feel like the Pga tour still has a few pretty popular European players eh?
I mean I feel like the Pga tour still has a few pretty popular European players eh?
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 8:47 am
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:41 am to lsupride87
the fact you care about this so much just says how much you don't understand. These folks do not care about ratings or losses. They have a piggy bank that would make Bezos and Musk blush, they are bleeding the competition out just for sport and the PGA fell right into it.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:43 am to Rendevoustavern
The PGA tour fell into what? If their ratings and such are still doing well, what harm has the tour actually taken on? From a fan of the tour, absolutely they have hurt it. But if the tours ratings and revenue is still high and climbing, what harm has been done to the entity?
That’s why these ratings will really help us see the actual harm to the Tour itself
As a fan of the Tour golf has absolutely been hurt by the Saudis. But the tour made more revenue last year, and record ratings last year, and if you beleive reports, is about to get a 3 billion investment
Seems like everyone but the fan is doing better
That’s why these ratings will really help us see the actual harm to the Tour itself
As a fan of the Tour golf has absolutely been hurt by the Saudis. But the tour made more revenue last year, and record ratings last year, and if you beleive reports, is about to get a 3 billion investment
Seems like everyone but the fan is doing better
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 8:45 am
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:44 am to lsupride87
Nah, I think you should only use American ratings to compare the success of the American Tour vs the Global Tour. Makes sense
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:45 am to JimTiger72
So the pga tour doesn’t get to add its European ratings? Why not?
I am 100% on board with adding the global ratings to each event this weekend.
I am 100% on board with adding the global ratings to each event this weekend.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 8:53 am
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:57 am to lsupride87
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LIV golf to be rated by Nielsen this year.
quote:I did not realize anyone actually watched it.
Now we can all stop fighting and be objective which tour is winning
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:48 am to lsupride87
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I am 100% on board with adding the global ratings to each event this weekend.
Alright, good luck compiling all this data:
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Fans in over 180 global territories can watch Live and On-Demand coverage of LIV Golf free of charge via LIV Golf Plus.
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GLOBAL BROADCASTERS
98 Territories
Australia Seven/Seven+
Angola SuperSport
Argentina DIRECTV
Austria Servus TV
Belize Claro
Benin SuperSport
Bolivia Claro
Botswana SuperSport
Brazil DirecTV
Burkina Faso SuperSport
Burundi SuperSport
Cambodia SPOTV
Cameroon SuperSport
Canada GameTV
Cape Verde SuperSport
Central African Republic SuperSport
Chad SuperSport
Chile Zapping.com
Colombia DirectTV
Comoros SuperSport
Congo SuperSport
Costa Rica Claro
Côte d'Ivoire SuperSport
Czechia GolfChannel.cz
Democratic Republic of the Congo SuperSport
Denmark YouTube
Djibouti SuperSport
Dominican Republic Claro
Ecuador DirecTV
El Salvador Claro
Equatorial Guinea SuperSport
Eritrea SuperSport
Eswatini SuperSport
Ethiopia SuperSport
Finland YouTube
France L'Equipe
Gabon SuperSport
Gambia SuperSport
Germany Servus TV
Ghana SuperSport
Guatemala Claro
Guinea SuperSport
Guinea-Bissau SuperSport
Honduras Claro
Iceland YouTube
Italy YouTube
Japan YouTube
Kenya SuperSport
Lesotho SuperSport
Liberia SuperSport
Liechtenstein Servus TV
Madagascar SuperSport
Malawi SuperSport
Malaysia SPOTV
Mali SuperSport
Mauritania SuperSport
Mauritius SuperSport
Mexico Claro
Mozambique SuperSport
Myanmar SPOTV
Namibia SuperSport
Nicaragua Claro
Niger SuperSport
Nigeria SuperSport
Norway YouTube
Panama DirecTV
Paraguay DirecTV
Peru DirecTV
Rwanda SuperSport
Sa~o Tome and Principe SuperSport
Saudi Arabia SSC
Senegal SuperSport
Seychelles SuperSport
Sierra Leone SuperSport
Slovakia GolfChannel.cz
Somalia SuperSport
South Africa SuperSport
South Korea SPOTV
St Helena and Ascension SuperSport
Sudan SuperSport
Sweden YouTube
Switzerland Servus TV
Tanzania SuperSport
Thailand SPOTV
Togo SuperSport
Uganda SuperSport
Uruguay DirecTV
Venezuela DIRECTV
Vietnam K+
Zambia SuperSport
Zimbabwe SuperSport
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:13 am to JimTiger72
The pga tour so has global broadcasters. It’s weird you think only Liv has a footprint outside the US
The pga tour still has the most popular European golfer, they still have the most popular Asian golfer as well.
The pga tour still has the most popular European golfer, they still have the most popular Asian golfer as well.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:14 am to lsupride87
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The pga tour so has global broadcasters. It’s weird you think only Liv has a footprint outside the US
There’s only one global tour
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:28 am to JimTiger72
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There’s only one global tour
More people around the globe, not counting the US, will watch the PGA tour event this weekend over the LIV event
Last year LIV was 52% non American
Top 50 in fed ex standings for pga tour was 41% non American
Both feel equally global no?
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:00 pm to lsupride87
Ehhh…. Based on where they play LIV definitely feels more global.
But I also don’t think LIV is getting incredible rankings globally either.
But I also don’t think LIV is getting incredible rankings globally either.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:07 pm to Dawgsontop34
LIv absolutely plays more global events
But saying the pga tour isn’t a global tour when almost half its top players are from outside of America is extremely disingenuous
And the face of the tour is from Europe currently
But saying the pga tour isn’t a global tour when almost half its top players are from outside of America is extremely disingenuous
And the face of the tour is from Europe currently
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:37 pm to lsupride87
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But saying the pga tour isn’t a global tour when almost half its top players are from outside of America is extremely disingenuous
It’s extremely disingenuous to act like I’m talking about nationality of players and not location of tournaments.
Out of the PGA’s 34 week schedule for 2024, there are 32 American Tournaments.
All of their 8 signature events are in the US.
Of the 12 LIV events, 7 of them are outside of the US. They will be in Europe 4 weeks in a row for LIV Spain, The Open, LIV UK, & The Olympics.
Currently, only 1/3 of the 54 LIV players are from US.
You can act like PGA is a global tour too, but that would be disingenuous
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:57 pm to JimTiger72
For one example, The eyeballs of Japan will be on the Pga tour this weekend, because their top player is on the pga tour. The fact liv plays events outside of the us won’t help their global ratings there.
Global ratings will only get a boost when the tournament is played in that particular country. The global players on the pga tour still carry their global ratings over liv
Global ratings will only get a boost when the tournament is played in that particular country. The global players on the pga tour still carry their global ratings over liv
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:11 pm to lsupride87
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The fact liv plays events outside of the us won’t help their global ratings there.
until they have a Japanese team. How sure are you about that? Obviously Matsuyama is their most successful golfer, but Jinichiro Kozuma just qualified to play on LIV.
I wonder how many other Japanese golfers will play on Asian Tour & try to qualify for 2025?
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:20 pm to JimTiger72
My point is eyeballs will go to where the players are from an individual international country standpoint, not the tournaments, aside from when the tournament happens to be in that particular country
I will expect Spanish ratings to be higher for LIV for example
I will expect Spanish ratings to be higher for LIV for example
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:36 pm to lsupride87
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Now we can all stop fighting and be objective which tour is winning
The PGA Tour is the better tour, there's no doubt about it. But what LIV has done/the players they have pulled in such a short time is pretty impressive, that can't be argued. They have taken a lot of good players away from the tour and have added more top players and more depth. There is legitimately good golf on LIV and it's only going to get better if a deal with the PGA isn't done. Hopefully it gets done, we don't need the Tour fields being any weaker than they already are half the time.
My thing has always been that the Tour/Jay brought this on themselves by ignoring the players and being cheap for a long time. When I say "cheap", I'm talking relative to what they had. And I never blamed a single player for bolting for money because the Tour/Jay wasn't looking out for their best interest. Especially the mid tier guys. I like pointing a finger and laughing at Jay and even more so now that he is a walking contradiction/snake oil salesman. He's weakened the sport/tour I've loved for 25 years, I can't forgive him for that. The worst commissioner in the history of pro sports.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Sorry, I vehemently disagree. I don’t think it’s impressive when a player is pulled but given 100s of millions of dollars
But what LIV has done/the players they have pulled in such a short time is pretty impressive, that can't be argued
If they pulled them without those contracts I would agree.
And you said the tour was being cheap, they weren’t. They are now running out of money and over their skis because they have paid the players more to fry and keep up
That’s just a fact
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 1:43 pm
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