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re: Lillard Trade Request
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:38 pm to Hoops
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:38 pm to Hoops
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I understand hating where you work but please don’t throw away that type of money just for a chance at a ring.
when your kids' kids are set for life, a ring looks more appealing than another 30 million dollars
and when you don't have that ring, you think about it until you die, especially when lesser players show you theirs
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 12:44 pm
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:43 pm to wildtigercat93
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And Giannis is signed for 5 of those years already. Maybe you get lucky and he decides he wants out but I wouldn’t hold my breathe, nor would I want to give up assets for that long shot lotto ticket
You realize that the best team in the league (maybe ever) as of 2 years ago just drafted number 2 overall last year right?
And the worst team in the west 2 years ago is 2 games from winning the championship right?
Things change.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Things change.
Sure they do; but until they do those picks are pretty close to worthless as an asset. Thus not a “war chest”
Those kind of picks are deal sweeteners, not picks that you build a trade package around for a superstar
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:48 pm to wildtigercat93
Remember when Lillard loved the grind and was all about “loyalty” and was throwing shade at Paul George?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:52 pm to xenythx
Yeah there’s sort of an endless cycle from the Lebron blue print where teams operate every day as “we need to build around winning a title this year or this player will leave” then eventually that kind of roster management leads to a shite roster or atleast one that’s not as good as it should be, and then the player starts feeling like they don’t have enough help and demand out, even if they were a major factor in all the decisions made to that point
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:02 pm to wildtigercat93
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Those kind of picks are deal sweeteners
I mean they would be part of like 4+ picks and maybe some swaps as well. Nola wouldn’t be trading lillard for bucks picks. It would be the bucks pick(s) plus lakers pick(s) plus pelicans pick(s)
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:07 pm to xenythx
And?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:15 pm to xenythx
Well bro that was a couple years ago. Isn’t really relevant now. Things changes ... all the top players leave if they don’t win a ring after 5 or so years.
bron
Kd
CP
AD
harden
Etc
Etc
bron
Kd
CP
AD
harden
Etc
Etc
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:16 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:A far cry from "James would never leave and join a super team"
Well bro that was a couple years ago. Isn’t really relevant now. Things changes ... all the top players leave if they don’t win a ring after 5 or so years.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:20 pm to shel311
Things change. It is nbd. He def stuck arojnd longer than bron and kd did before taking the easy route.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:21 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
He def stuck arojnd longer than bron and kd did before taking the easy route.
You omitted Jim's name.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 2:04 pm to shel311
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Ingram as your 3rd best player
I’m assuming we’d have to include him in the deal, but if not, then hell yeah we could be contenders with some savvy roster building
Posted on 7/16/21 at 2:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Right, the realization that you'll never win a title as the #1 guy will prompt a man to join KD as the #2 option to try and win a title.
Things change
Posted on 7/16/21 at 2:13 pm to shel311
Thru no fault of his own he didn’t win one when CP was his teammate. When you outplay 2 other top 5 players it is more than safe to say it is not on you.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:07 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Thru no fault of his own he didn’t win one
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:38 pm to shel311
When you leave no doubt about who the best player was in a series involving steph, kd, etc, it goes without saying that you held up your end of the deal.
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:56 pm to Boomshockalocka
Those 0 points and -15 in the 4th quarter of game 6 in 2018 screams elite!!!
What about game 7 you ask? Game 7 Harden goes 7 minutes without scoring in the 4th quarter and once the game was out of hand, Harden scored 6 quick points to do a little stat padding in garbage time.
But surely Harden was more clutch in 2019, right? Game 6. Harden scores a bucket with 11 minutes left in the quarter, 1 point game. Harden then doesn't score again until the Rockets are down 5 with :18 to go, a full 10 minutes without a bucket. Where'd he go?
And hey, since I'm fair and balanced, props to Harden as he dropped 12 points in game 6 in 2019 in the 4th quarter. But it didn't matter because big time players come up really big, not just 12 points. And Steph Curry dropped 23 points that quarter.
4 games 4 losses...why couldn't hte best player in the L have his own 20+ point quarter to put a team away given 4 chances?
Up 3 games to 2 for 2 straight seasons then 4 losses in a row. Harden's team was outscored in the 4th quarter when harden was on the court in all 4 games, for a total of -31. He was the complete opposite of a difference maker. He was helpless.
What about game 7 you ask? Game 7 Harden goes 7 minutes without scoring in the 4th quarter and once the game was out of hand, Harden scored 6 quick points to do a little stat padding in garbage time.
But surely Harden was more clutch in 2019, right? Game 6. Harden scores a bucket with 11 minutes left in the quarter, 1 point game. Harden then doesn't score again until the Rockets are down 5 with :18 to go, a full 10 minutes without a bucket. Where'd he go?
And hey, since I'm fair and balanced, props to Harden as he dropped 12 points in game 6 in 2019 in the 4th quarter. But it didn't matter because big time players come up really big, not just 12 points. And Steph Curry dropped 23 points that quarter.
4 games 4 losses...why couldn't hte best player in the L have his own 20+ point quarter to put a team away given 4 chances?
Up 3 games to 2 for 2 straight seasons then 4 losses in a row. Harden's team was outscored in the 4th quarter when harden was on the court in all 4 games, for a total of -31. He was the complete opposite of a difference maker. He was helpless.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 4:07 pm to Boomshockalocka
There’s no doubt Harden is one of the best to ever do it from quarters 1-3, but he is just not a guy you can trust in a tight 4th quarter in a playoff game
Posted on 7/16/21 at 4:12 pm to rollthatback
quote:Well yea...see above
There’s no doubt Harden is one of the best to ever do it from quarters 1-3, but he is just not a guy you can trust in a tight 4th quarter in a playoff game
Biggest 4 quarters of Harden's life, he scored 27 points, of which 6 were in garbage time.
Contrast that with Steph Curry, who scored 47 points in those same 4 4th quarters.
It's also important to note those "GOAT Warriors" Boom likes to call them...in those 4 4th quarters for a total of 48 minutes, KD played 12 minutes.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 4:12 pm to shel311
Without harden outplaying those two they lose in 4, like bron did. The smaller the sample size you have to go to, the weaker the argument.
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