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re: Let's do a vote. Death Penalty for Penn State?

Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:17 am to
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:17 am to
Yeah, i'll wait until the criminal/civil trials and for the ncaa's own investigation if any other rules were violated.

i'm leaning towards no though.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42351 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:19 am to
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And the individuals who covered it up deserve the worst punishment possible


The school administration was part of it and so was the athletic dept. Let the players transfer and play immidiately. frick the football program in the arse.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:23 am to
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The people responsible are either dead, in jail or unemployed.
i don't think we can say that. we know that individuals at seemingly every level of the athletic department knew about this: janitors, assistant coaches, the head coach, the AD, the president of the university and they failed to act. we know that people in the criminal justice system knew what went on, and presumably continued to see the second mile organization operate as normal.

i think this is way beyond a few individuals. we are talking about a culture in which a grown man saw another grown man rape a child, and all bravado aside, chose to talk to route things through the athletic department instead of the police. getting rid of a few individuals doesn't change that.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:36 am to
From an NCAA perspective, the worst part of the report was that PSU was not only not in compliance with eligibility rules, but that they had no process in place to make sure they were. The fact the football program was accidentally violating federal law due to its own lax compliance department is a huge NCAA issue.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:42 am to
Yes. Death penalty. If any "lack of institutional control" ever deserved the DP, this is it.
It was almost like "too much control".

While we're at it, I'm with Bowden. Take that statue down!

You can leave Paterno's win record. It'll always be tainted, and it'll serve as a good reminder that "winning at all costs" is not a worthy pursuit.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42351 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:44 am to
I would be really interested to see if the state legislature goes after the school with sanctions since it's a state school.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19696 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:46 am to
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frick the football program in the arse.


Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
3990 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:53 am to
No death penalty for Penn State.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:58 am to
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From an NCAA perspective, the worst part of the report was that PSU was not only not in compliance with eligibility rules, but that they had no process in place to make sure they were. The fact the football program was accidentally violating federal law due to its own lax compliance department is a huge NCAA issue.


I've been on the side of no NCAA action in this case, but that makes complete sense. A lax compliance dept. does certainly fall under NCAA jurisdiction.

Good post Baloo.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:00 am to
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F*ck the football program in the arse.
Ahh. Old timey justice.
An eye for an eye.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:03 am to
The parts of the Freeh Report on PSU’s non-existent compliance department were devastating. From an NCAA perspective, it gave them all the ammunition they need. Anyone who says there is no NCAA issue clearly did not read the Freeh Report. There’s a lot in there about the compliance department’s failure to do, well, anything.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:13 am to
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The parts of the Freeh Report on PSU’s non-existent compliance department were devastating. From an NCAA perspective, it gave them all the ammunition they need. Anyone who says there is no NCAA issue clearly did not read the Freeh Report. There’s a lot in there about the compliance department’s failure to do, well, anything.
I'll say this again for anyone that wasn't paying attention.
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Yes. Death penalty. If any "lack of institutional control" ever deserved the DP, this is it.
It was almost like "too much control".
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87389 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:13 am to
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To those who say no death penalty (Im not even fully for that) how about severe sanctions? I dont understand how anyone thinks the NCAA should do nothing when the AD was actively covering it up in the interests of sports.


IMO I think the program needs to be turned into Baylor basketball. Take away a severe amount of scholarships bowl bans for a decade (exaggeration but yall get the point).
Punish bricks and beams? Yeah, that will do a lot of good. The idea that the school, instead of individual human beings, should be punished simply makes no sense at all.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:26 am to
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we know that individuals at seemingly every level of the athletic department knew about this: janitors, assistant coaches,


link?
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:31 am to
Is the OP actually polling or just asking ppl to reply?

Can we gat an update?
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:36 am to
So yall want to hurt the current players, students, and local businesses all of whom had nothing to do with this event. That makes perfect sense.
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:43 am to
Most people are stupid, irrational, and quick to jump to conclusions.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12467 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:43 am to
This may have already been posted, but Emmert isn't ruling out the death penalty... LINK
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:47 am to
He won't do it
Posted by bigt41
Member since Nov 2008
3484 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 9:50 am to
yes to the death penalty
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