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re: Let's do a vote. Death Penalty for Penn State?

Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:50 am to
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:50 am to
But I guess you can prove the current players knew about this right?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:50 am to
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But I guess you can prove the current players knew about this right?



Who said anything about players. It's already on record that more than 4 people knew about this, so that line of thinking is stupid.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:51 am to
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The money that the athletic department and football generates will help fund these lawsuits.



no he insurance company for the University will pay most of the damages.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:51 am to
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These are very different circumstances. Just bc those ppl in power didn't do what they should have we should give into mainstream media?


of course not, but i don't need mainstream media to help me come to my opinion. in fact, if anything espn, etc. and their constant, relentless smears usually to make me lean the other way but not in this situation.
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:55 am to
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of course not, but i don't need mainstream media to help me come to my opinion. in fact, if anything espn, etc. and their constant, relentless smears usually to make me lean the other way but not in this situation.


Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 10:58 am to
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You think only 4 people on that campus knew over a more than a decade coverup?


No one can prove or disprove that, other than what has already be told. I think more knew, but that doesn't matter. I also think the problem is gone.

But let's shutdown the football program bc you and I think more ppl were involved. No evidence necessary right?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:00 am to
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But let's shutdown the football program bc you and I think more ppl were involved


At the very least I bet your not including the janitors in your tally of 4 people that knew. That is a fact, not speculation on my part. So that's already more than 4.

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No evidence necessary right?


Take this bullshite line elsewhere, it means you don't have a response.
Posted by vl100butch
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:03 am to
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You think only 4 people on that campus knew over a more than a decade coverup?

No one can prove or disprove that, other than what has already be told. I think more knew, but that doesn't matter. I also think the problem is gone.

But let's shutdown the football program bc you and I think more ppl were involved. No evidence necessary right?


have you ever lived in Central Pennsylvania?

have you ever been a student at any Penn State campus?

the answer to both for me is yes...and that's why i'm so adamant about the death penalty because the insular culture with no accountability needs to be changed....

Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:05 am to
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At the very least I bet your not including the janitors in your tally of 4 people that knew. That is a fact, not speculation on my part. So that's already more than 4.


You said 4, I just went with it. I said other than what has already been reported.

I bet those janitors really helped the football program.

Would you shut down PSU the academic school if it were the president, or even the entire BOT? Yes or no?
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:06 am to
Good thing it's not up to you then.

Would YOU shut down the school if it were the president?
Posted by NewtonReb
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:07 am to
Not even remotely close.

No.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:08 am to
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Would you shut down PSU the academic school if it were the president, or even the entire BOT? Yes or no?


I'd highly consider it.

Bottom line is this cover up happened at multiple levels of the football program and AD, as well as PSU as a whole. And it was done to protect the program.

The NCAA must get involved.
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:10 am to
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I'd highly consider it.


You'd highly consider shutting down an academic institution. Take that shite elsewhere. That means you don't have to respond.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:12 am to
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You'd highly consider shutting down an academic institution


If their highest members are into farming young boys for rape, yea. frick them. There's plenty of other colleges in the nation.
Posted by MikeyFL
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:17 am to
The Death Penalty is the least of Penn State's problems right now.

There are several issues that could seriously threaten Penn State's accreditation status with the Middle States Commission on Higher Education:

1) Lack of oversight by top officials and the Board of Trustees
2) Non-compliance with the Clery Act
3) The lump-sum payment of $168,000 to Sandusky that was subsequently used to buy state property for the Second Mile.
4) Problems with PSU's background check process
5) Lack of consistent standards across departments and campuses.
6) Failure to implement documented policies and procedures.

Any one of these issues would be serious enough to place Penn State on probation. All of them together constitute a massive problem for Penn State's accreditation.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:34 am to
wth? isn't this whole thread about opinions? so back at ya.
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:40 am to
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wth? isn't this whole thread about opinions? so back at ya.



Relax Sally. It's your opinion and I disagree. That's all.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:43 am to
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Relax Sally. It's your opinion and I disagree. That's all.


i took a hydro about an hour ago, i'm plenty relaxed ted. and yes, we disagree but i bet we can agree that we're very glad it's not lsu or arky involved in this mess.
Posted by vl100butch
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:43 am to
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Good thing it's not up to you then.

Would YOU shut down the school if it were the president


gawd, am i dealing with idiots here....

i'd shut the football program down for 2 or 3 years, work with the ncaa to let players transfer with no loss of eligibility and not count against the 85 scholarship limit (with a limit of how many can go to a particular school)

then i'd get rid of the entire atheltic administration staff and bring in outsiders...

Posted by 10888bge
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Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:44 am to
resounding yes

To many talking heads on the sportz channelz are making this out to be a non-football incident that gave PSU no competitive advatage. I call Bull shite to that argument. One of the biggest recruiting draws was PSU's pristine image and the name brand. Without those they would be NW pen poly tech comm college. The cover up was to protect the Brand of PSU to keep recruiting higher profile players. Death to them good Sirs, and nothing short of 2 years w/no team 3 year game ban 5 year bowl ban. Let the kids transfer and play immediately.
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