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Les Miles Reportedly Pushing For Change For CFB Recruiting Limits

Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:35 pm
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Under the current rules, schools can sign 25 players on a football scholarship in each recruiting class. Schools often go over 25 commits in a recruiting class, but find ways to make the numbers work out (back-counting early enrollees, grayshirting, blueshirting, etc) when it comes to getting the signee on the team. Les Miles wants to make it officially easier to go over 25 in a class.

According to college football insider Bruce Feldman, Miles is pushing for more flexibility, asking for 50 signees over a two-year period to be allowed instead of a strict 25 signees per year. Unsurprisingly, he’s making this push less than two months since taking the Kansas job where he appears to have found out that the Jayhawks roster is a mess.

Miles is one of the many coaches attending the American Football Coaches Association convention in San Antonio. Wednesday is the final day of the four-day gathering. In case you were wondering, these teams are currently at 25 or more commits in the 2019 class:
Texas A&M (25)
Arkansas (27)
Alabama (28)
Ole Miss (28)



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Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:37 pm to
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asking for 50 signees over a two-year period to be allowed instead of a strict 25 signees per year.
Makes sense to me.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:37 pm to
i thought he was going to jail? admitting to stealing the college playoff trophy on national tv seems like a serious crime
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:40 pm to
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thought he was going to jail? admitting to stealing the college playoff trophy on national tv seems like a serious crime


Kansas might be the closest thing to football jail there is
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:46 pm to
I remember when Ron Zook and a few others would have over 150+ offers out. People always wished all 150 would of accepted.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Schools often go over 25 commits in a recruiting class, but find ways to make the numbers work out (back-counting early enrollees, grayshirting, blueshirting, etc)


Yeah that's how Saban built Bama...he'd bring in 40 guys have spring practice (try-outs) see who was a bust and cut them.

Scholies are only good for one year and must be renewed...he'd ask a player to give it up, and transfer.

As they said on one of those ESPN highlight shows after the game and why Bama lost.

"Alabama is a factory (they've lost 13 assistants in 7 years) and players can't wait to bolt to the NFL - ala Calipari/Saban same coaches basically...while Clemson is a family and kids love playing for Dabo and assistants want to stay."


One is just a semi-pro means to an end and the other is an actual college.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112335 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:51 pm to
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and players can't wait to bolt to the NFL -


Uhh I would say Bama has the most success in convincing draft eligible juniors to stay vs other elite programs
Posted by mylsuhat
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:52 pm to
Especially for new coaches to a program. If you get a job at a place where someone was fired, chances are you have a lot of work ahead of you to get the guys you need
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28066 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:54 pm to
Nebraska built a farm system by over recruiting.

They had "Grey" shirts. Or kids would get "local" scholarships, and go on red shirts.

So once the Seniors left, they had a class of freshman ready, and another one of kids coming in. stacked that talent on talent.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:58 pm to
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They had "Grey" shirts. Or kids would get "local" scholarships, and go on red shirts.


Yeah, there was a state program where one kid from every county in Nebraska would get an academic scholarship to the university. Under Osborne, those scholarships kept going to guys who just so happened to also want to walk on to the football program.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Yeah that's how Saban built Bama...he'd bring in 40 guys have spring practice (try-outs) see who was a bust and cut them.


Yea that's never happened

2008-30
2009-26
2010-25
2011-26

He went 12-2 in his second season and won the title in his third. Tell me more about how oversigning is how he built bama.

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Alabama is a factory (they've lost 13 assistants in 7 years)

Everybody wants to replicate what he's doing.

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and players can't wait to bolt to the NFL


Who wrote this? Bama has had first round projections come back for their senior seasons.


You post false information about Alabama quite a bit.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
6617 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:34 pm to
If only Les worked this hard at his last job.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Arkansas (27)


Can we have 270 instead?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80283 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Texas A&M (25)


1. Only 23 signed so far.
2. 8 have enrolled early.
3. Since A&M only signed 23 in the 2018 class and 2 counted towards the 2017 class, 4 of the 2019 class can count towards 2018, meaning A&M can sign 29.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:36 pm to
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instead of a strict 25 signees per year.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3537 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:51 pm to
That's not even possible but he did have a reputation for processing kids and abusing the medical redshirt rule to manipulate the numbers. You have to give him credit, he's always been good at exploiting the system to the fullest.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60374 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:17 pm to
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asking for 50 signees over a two-year period to be allowed instead of a strict 25 signees per year.


Les has seen the "Talent" on his roster and obviously wants to cut half the team so he can bring in better players immediately.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22789 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:11 pm to
Arkansas will have signed around 29 by the seasons beginning. I remember Butch signing like 32 a couple of years. Nonides how he did it.

Only way it's working for Arkansas is because they processed out about half a signing class in the past year, thanks to either medical issues, transfers or "retirements" from football.

It only makes sense that if you sign under 25 one year you can sign over 25 the next year.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2723 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:13 pm to
107 scholarships over a 4 year period. Only 85 scholarships on a roster in a given year. A roster can have 105 players, but only 85 on scholarship.

So he signs a huge class every year and then weeds out the guys who aren’t up to Bama’s standard. Hence they were processed.
Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
4977 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:21 am to
I say screw it, make it harder. You can only have (25 offers) out at one time. This might create more pairity in college football. Also only red shirts allowable would be confirmed medical. This would make it very interesting.
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