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re: Leftwich to Jags

Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:12 pm to
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Because he was a terrible GM but not a bad coach.


People seem to have a really hard time understanding this
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19522 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:14 pm to
I like Leftwich

I miss the announcers feeling the need to remind us every time he played that he was NOT a mobile QB
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:18 pm to
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dude got hired for “coaching” Brady

I bet this will end well for Jacksonville…
Like Josh McDaniels getting several NFL Head Coaching opportunities for " coaching" Brady? Many of us understand that Southerners do not think Blacks deserve these jobs...unfortunately we cannot express to young recruits how the SEC fanbase really feel about them.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
51387 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Speaking of, with so many NFL vacancies still to be filled, why did the Coaching Changes board get shut down already?

Because LSU hired Hankton, and like the rantards like to tell you any time you complain, tHiS iS aN LsU bOaRd.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11999 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:26 pm to
I like it. Rather Leftwich get a chance than some retread HC
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19354 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:27 pm to
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He didn't leave town well liked. Those sentiments could arise again, possibly quicker than someone with no affiliation to the area. His 3 years in tampa were the jameis 30/30 season and 2 years of tom brady. It's difficult to read his influence there. It's an uphill battle with how bad the roster is, so not expecting much. We'll see if he makes it through year 3, but the jags have made worse hires at head coach. One coaches my o line now


Agree with all of this. And if it was someone like the Pats, Steelers, Chiefs, etc. I might be a little more surprised. But Khan is probably thinking, "Hell, we can only go up from here." Why not try Byron?

I admittedly didn't know that he left the city on poor terms. I lived near Jax in the late 90s and remember those really good teams. They've fallen pretty damn far.
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:30 pm to
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People seem to have a really hard time understanding this


Yea I don’t think BOB is a super bowl coach, but I def think he can take a shitty franchise and make them competitive
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19957 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:25 pm to
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I admittedly didn't know that he left the city on poor terms

It was more the fans scapegoating him than anything. Especially when David Garrard played decently, at a fraction of the cost.
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I lived near Jax in the late 90s and remember those really good teams. They've fallen pretty damn far.

True story. I'm not a huge nfl guy. Certainly not against it, just not emotionally invested in it at all. I was 13 when we were awarded the team, but my soul was already sold to college football. Most of my friends are "life-long" Jags fans, so I go to a game every other year or so. It's been rough for them, especially when fsu and uf have been down. The few Georgia/jag fans are content right now
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8903 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:07 pm to
I think it will work out, Tom Brady didn't make Charlie Weis look like an OC Savant at all. Let's Go Byron!

Edit: I'm glad BL is getting a shot. Tom Brady makes people look better than they actually are though.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39562 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:45 pm to
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Like Josh McDaniels getting several NFL Head Coaching opportunities for " coaching" Brady? Many of us understand that Southerners do not think Blacks deserve these jobs...unfortunately we cannot express to young recruits how the SEC fanbase really feel about them.


Is it exhausting going through those mental gymnastics?

McDaniels is trash too. Race has nothing to do with it. I bet I could land a HC gig too if I was the OC for the greatest QB of all time is the point I’m trying to make.
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6772 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:47 pm to
Another colossal failure.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60030 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:53 pm to
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McDaniels is trash too. Race has nothing to do with it.


Your opinion of McDaniels is irrelevant he still got a HC job and is often linked with others. It’s not racist in the sense that someone consciously says we’re want Josh because he’s white or we don’t want Byron because he’s black but the end result is the same if you say Leftwich isn’t a good candidate because he was the OC for Brady. And saying McDaniels is getting other chances because the NFL likes retreads is exactly their point. How can more black coaches get chances that way?

Thankfully it’s a moot point since Leftwich did get a job. hopefully Bieniemy gets one as well not because he’s black but because he’s been a very successful coordinator that wants to be a HC and deserves an opportunity.

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I bet I could land a HC gig too if I was the OC for the greatest QB of all time is the point I’m trying to make.


How long have you been in coaching? If you think any slappy with zero experience can do it, it shows you don’t know what you are talking about
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39562 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:55 pm to
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Your opinion of McDaniels is irrelevant he still got a HC job and is often linked with others.


Your opinion of my opinion is irrelevant. And it’s moot…
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60030 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:57 pm to
Thought we were having a discussion but you completely missed the point
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25470 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:21 pm to
There was an nfl reporter the other day who said Leftwich should be a very very nervous hire because he has never really even run the offense in Tampa.

During the Jameis 30/30 year, Arians called the plays and did the install and during the Brady years, TB and Arians designed the offens, and then Tom basically did the install and ran the offense and called the plays.

Not saying he can't coach, but his credentials may not be all what they stack up to be. Just like McDaniels, who never did shite as an OC without Brady as his QB, and just like many many former Andy Reid assistants (ie Nagy) who never do shite outside of his oversight.

This love will probably flame out tremendously, because that's what the jags do. But at least we'll see if Leftwich is a decent coach or not.

Personally, they should have hired Doug Pederson. Dude should have never been fired in Phily and he made Carson Wentz the leading mvp candidate in 2017 until he got hurt.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61256 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:23 pm to
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Dumb hire


Dumb post
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4912 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:31 pm to
I hope all the black coaches get hired this cycle so they can squash the talk. And when they fail it can be put to rest.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7766 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:41 pm to
Jacksonville should have made this move in 2021 before they wasted a year of Trevor Lawrence's career. I'm not saying Leftwich will be great, but he's got to be a better hire than Urban.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
56293 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:46 pm to
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Sounds like Buccaneers making the full court press to retain Byron Leftwich. Name him the next Coach. Bump his pay. Oddly, doing that would be a violation of the Rooney Rule. So what, pay the fine.


LINK
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
38952 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:48 pm to
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BoB is a good coach, just a terrible GM.



Pretty terrible play caller as well or at best, a very overrated one
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 5:49 pm
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