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re: Lebron: The odds have been stacked against me...
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:40 am to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:40 am to Byrdybyrd05
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while in high school.
he said 5 or 6 years old, not since he graduated hs
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:43 am to JOHNN
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But once he started to become really good at basketball, that all changed and he’s had anything he wants at the palm of his hand since.
He earned that. There are a lot of 6'8" dudes out there that never made it to the nba.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:43 am to TbirdSpur2010
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He's from ohio.
So he's right
Dont forget that he plays in Cleveland, aka “The Bootyhole of America”
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:19 pm to Tyga Woods
In recent years, I think Lebron has understood that he's a role model for many of today's poor black kids that are being raised in poverty and dysfunctional communities. He's telling his story to give hope to others.
Everything is obviously relative. The odds were stacked against him compared to middle-class America but not compared to the 'median' person in the world (3rd world or poor India/China).
I go back and forth on Lebron all of the time. He's just a person that is one of the best basketball players the world has ever seen. Given the intense praise and negativity that has been directed at him (beginning in his formative years), he has handled most of it fairly well with a few errors along the way.
Everything is obviously relative. The odds were stacked against him compared to middle-class America but not compared to the 'median' person in the world (3rd world or poor India/China).
I go back and forth on Lebron all of the time. He's just a person that is one of the best basketball players the world has ever seen. Given the intense praise and negativity that has been directed at him (beginning in his formative years), he has handled most of it fairly well with a few errors along the way.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:21 pm to shel311
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Probably the bouncing around from home to home without any semblance of a family structure. But I guess that's no big deal.
no way, growing up without a father and ur mother being a hooker is easy peasy, just ask OP. i would bet kids that grow up that way have the exact same odds as your average household growing up in the suburbs of being rich/successful in life
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:39 pm to sgallo3
Lebron is the GOAT fatherless NBA player
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:44 pm to JOHNN
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But once he started to become really good at basketball, that all changed and he’s had anything he wants at the palm of his hand since.
You say this as if it's happenstance. It isn't. He had to work very hard to become that skilled at his craft.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:30 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Lebron is the GOAT fatherless NBA player
agreed, it's gonna make it even harder to surpass Jordan on the Greatest Player to Cause his Father to be Murdered list
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:32 pm to Powerman
Exactly. Lebron was blessed with his physical talents and height, but he worked his arse off on his skill. Without the hard work he coulda just been a scrub 6'8'' player with a bad hairline aka Joel Anthony.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:56 pm to Tyga Woods
People have no idea how many guys that won the genetic lottery should've made the NBA. Kids don't just automatically get on the right track because they have the gifts to succeed in professional sports.
For every Lebron James, there's 100 kids you never heard of that could've made it and didn't because of the same shoddy support system that Lebron had. He had to overcome that.
Lebron probably would've been highly successful at whatever he wanted to do. People say "if I had his gifts I'd be great too" yet they're in some dead end job in their chosen field.
For every Lebron James, there's 100 kids you never heard of that could've made it and didn't because of the same shoddy support system that Lebron had. He had to overcome that.
Lebron probably would've been highly successful at whatever he wanted to do. People say "if I had his gifts I'd be great too" yet they're in some dead end job in their chosen field.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:59 pm to Goldrush25
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People have no idea how many guys that won the genetic lottery should've made the NBA. Kids don't just automatically get on the right track because they have the gifts to succeed in professional sports.
For every Lebron James, there's 100 kids you never heard of that could've made it and didn't because of the same shoddy support system that Lebron had. He had to overcome that.
This is quite true.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:02 pm to JOHNN
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Dont forget that he plays in Cleveland, aka “The Bootyhole of America”
It's a wretched existence. Would not wish upon my worst enemy, tbh.
All the fame/fortune in the world cannot cleanse one of the stench of being from ohio.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:03 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Lebron was way ahead of his peers physically, while in high school. He's a genetic freak. There are not 100 clones of him that simply didn't make the NBA. I went to highschool with several people that ended up in the NBA, NFL, MLB. Not a single one of them was on par with Lebron physically. You won't find more than 5 people on the globe right now with the same raw genetic gifts as Lebron, that are not in the highest level of their sport.
With regard to basketball, everything on the planet has been handed to him since he was in 10th grade. If you look on youtube for his highschool highlights you'll see there was no comparison between him and his peers. And you don't get that from hard work at that age. There isn't enough time, there isn't the coaching, there aren't enough games, etc. That's just reality.
Take Chipper Jones in high school, for example. That guy did nothing his entire life but play baseball. And he came from enough money to allow him to play all year, with access to the best coaching, best leagues, and so forth. But if you compare Jones to A-Rod, it's easy to see A-Rod was better in highschool. He shot right up to MLB. He was just more polished and a total freak for all the skillsets in baseball, and he did not grow up with the same tools and access as Jones. At that age, some people are like that. People act as though admitting this is a mark against Lebron. It's not. It is what it is.
I'm not saying he was a slacker. And since getting in the NBA it seems he's been a hard worker.
But during his rookie season he got tons of hype and at pressers people would tell him, "Everyone is here to see you, this is all for you". Go look that up and compare the way he acted then to the way he acts now.
Since before he could drive people have been pumping up his ego. Since a late teen he's been a millionaire. For almost 20 years people have been fawning all over him. It's not healthy for a person's development. That's why he has mental illness now. Paranoid narcissism is guaranteed for someone in such an environment.
You can scoff at that if you want, but his life consists of playing a game, insulated in the sports world, surrounded by people telling him that he's the best that's ever lived, or people that troll him. This mental illness is inevtible. He needs something away from basketball to bring him down to reality and get his mind right. Otherwise, one day, after he retires, life is going to be hell for him.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:06 pm to starsandstripes
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Since before he could drive people have been pumping up his ego. Since a late teen he's been a millionaire. For almost 20 years people have been fawning all over him. It's not healthy for a person's development. That's why he has mental illness now. Paranoid narcissism is guaranteed for someone in such an environment. You can scoff at that if you want, but his life consists of playing a game, insulated in the sports world, surrounded by people telling him that he's the best that's ever lived, or people that troll him. This mental illness is inevtible. He needs something away from basketball to bring him down to reality and get his mind right. Otherwise, one day, after he retires, life is going to be hell for him.
Huh?
You're getting all of that from his comment? Wow.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:12 pm to starsandstripes
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With regard to basketball, everything on the planet has been handed to him since he was in 10th grade.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:13 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Those dudes are my favorite. Woe is me!!!
People say "if I had his gifts I'd be great too" yet they're in some dead end job in their chosen field.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:14 pm to shel311
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LeBron's mother, Gloria James, was 16 years old when she had LeBron. He never met his father, Michael Wise of the Washington Post reports. They grew up in poverty, and when LeBron's grandmother died when he was 5, the city condemned their house.
Between ages 5 and 8, LeBron moved 12 times, he said in his book.
He told 60 Minutes about that period, "We had pressures as far as where the hell we gonna sleep at. You know, from night, day to day, night to night. How we gonna eat from day to day, night to night?"
LeBron missed 100 days of school in fourth grade because he didn't have the transportation to get there, he told Matt McMillen of WebMD Magazine in 2010.
Wonder how much of that is actual bullsh*t. After all, he likes to fabricate stuff often.
#Gategate
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:17 pm to Goldrush25
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People have no idea how many guys that won the genetic lottery should've made the NBA. Kids don't just automatically get on the right track because they have the gifts to succeed in professional sports.
For every Lebron James, there's 100 kids you never heard of that could've made it and didn't because of the same shoddy support system that Lebron had. He had to overcome that.
Pretty much. Which is why I don’t have a problem with him talking about it either. If that motivates a kid in a similar situation to try everything he can to get out of that situation then so be it.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:18 pm to starsandstripes
quote:It's not 100% genetic, he works for a great portion of that as well, especially the ability to still do it at this level with all the minutes he's logged.
Not a single one of them was on par with Lebron physically. You won't find more than 5 people on the globe right now with the same raw genetic gifts as Lebron, that are not in the highest level of their sport.
quote:Nah. You don't get to be called the greatest prospect coming into the NBA without putting a shite ton of hard work into it, in addition to the physical gifts.
With regard to basketball, everything on the planet has been handed to him since he was in 10th grade. If you look on youtube for his highschool highlights you'll see there was no comparison between him and his peers. And you don't get that from hard work at that age. There isn't enough time, there isn't the coaching, there aren't enough games, etc. That's just reality.
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That's why he has mental illness now
quote:That's what you think his life consists of because you only see him play basketball. He obviously does a whole lot of stuff outside of basketball that are important to him.
You can scoff at that if you want, but his life consists of playing a game, insulated in the sports world, surrounded by people telling him that he's the best that's ever lived, or people that troll him. This mental illness is inevtible. He needs something away from basketball to bring him down to reality and get his mind right
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