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re: Lebron fans are the biggest excuse making people in sports

Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:49 pm to
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The fact is that Lebron is a Ray Allen three and a Steph Curry ankle injury away from being 1-7 in the Finals.



You could play the what if game with a lot of player's championships.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 4:42 pm to
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The fact is that Lebron is a Ray Allen three and a Steph Curry ankle injury away from being 1-7 in the Finals.


Love and Kyrie were injured throughout the 2015 finals
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 4:45 pm to
Not Harden's
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5772 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 4:46 pm to
My God, this was hard to read.

Grammar: D-
Overall point: F
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25112 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 4:47 pm to
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The fact is that Lebron is a Ray Allen three and a Steph Curry ankle injury away from being 1-7 in the Finals.


The fact is those things happened, and his teams won.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 4:48 pm to
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Didn’t Jordan make his teammates better
His teammates won 55 games without him
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10378 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 4:52 pm to
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Love and Kyrie were injured throughout the 2015 finals


More importantly, Delly cramped up
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 4:59 pm to
I’m an English major. And hoops enthusiast. A on both scales.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 5:08 pm to
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I’m an English major. And hoops enthusiast. A on both scales.


When Boom starts to trip the thread up and troll us, don't fall for it guys
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35457 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 5:17 pm to
Before LeBron Cleveland went 17-65.

They drafted LeBron and went 35-47 the next year.

The 1978 Celtics went 29-53 and missed the playoffs.

They drafted Larry Bird (only addition to the team the next year) and went 62-20 and made the Eastern Conference Finals only losing to Dr. J's Sixers.

Magic won a title his first year on the Lakers.

Some people take over the sport from day 1, some need an All-Star team.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27872 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 5:24 pm to
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If Lebron makes everyone around him much better, why does his team lose so many finals?

You’re assuming LeBron making his teammates better means he makes them good or great. That’s not necessarily the case.

Getting the most out of a teammate doesn’t mean they turn into Pippen.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15756 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 6:23 pm to
And improved 25 games or so with him
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 6:26 pm to
Did you enjoy Alabama's spring game today?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44743 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 6:30 pm to
The 2010 Cavs won 61 games. The 2011 Cavs won something like 20. That's the impact LeBron had
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35457 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 6:31 pm to
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The fact is that Lebron is a Ray Allen three and a Steph Curry ankle injury away from being 1-7 in the Finals.


You mean a horrible suspension away.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35457 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 6:33 pm to
Why do you keep hounding me about Alabama?

Just because I'm not some fan and cut through the B.S. and history.

I mean, if Bama fans would just be normal and not exaggerate their history like to the craziest degree then all would be cool.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 6:36 pm to
I enjoy it

And you bring them up a lot
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15756 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 6:59 pm to
Or maybe it was the impact that blowing up your entire roster had?
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:10 pm to
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If Lebron makes everyone around him much better, why does his team lose so many finals?


Because he plays tougher competition. Here're Jordan's and LeBron's opponents in the finals ranked by SRS:

'17 Warriors 11.35
'16 Warriors 10.38
'15 Warriors 10.01
'07 Spurs 8.35
'14 Spurs 8.00 (This is a team that was regularly resting its starters. IIRC they were 10+ with everyone playing)
'97 Jazz 7.97
'96 Sonics 7.40
'92 Blazers 6.94
'91 Lakers 6.73
'13 Spurs 6.67
'12 Thunder 6.44
'93 Suns 6.27
'98 Jazz 5.73
'11 Mavs 4.41

Outside of that one ugly series against the Mavs his losses have been suffered against GOAT-level teams while his own surrounding casts have been subpar in those years.
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:18 pm to
They didn't immediately blow up their entire roster. They initially only lost West, Ilgauskas and O'neal in addition to LeBron. They played 30+ games with 7 of their top 11 players from the previous season and were losing games by 9+ points on average, on pace for being one of the worst teams ever even before the remainder of the roster was deconstructed.

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