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re: Lebron comments on the Ahmaud Arbery shooting

Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
18218 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:10 pm to
Even the fricking OT seems to have come to a consensus that this was racially motivated and that the guys who did it should get locked up. But since LeBron commented on it everyone here backs the murderers. Y'all are the same as the Orange Man Bad people. Sad.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65954 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:10 pm to
What is “the underlying racism that causes killings”?


Do you know how ignorant and deranged you seem?
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:11 pm
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1609 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Gang members shoot people because they’re gang members and bad people.


Bad people shoot people. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter if they’re in a gang or some lowlife in Georgia.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9844 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

The mere fact that you cannot admit this is more likely to happen to a black person

Where do you get your facts from?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149374 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:13 pm to
I mean I dont think it was an explicit racially biased hate crime. But I find it hard to believe it didnt play some underlying part
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:13 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73015 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

The actual killing itself, no it isn’t a huge issue.

The underlying racism that causes these killings, however small in raw numbers they may be, is absolutely an issue regardless of if the white southern TD board wants to admit it.

This thread is a prime example. People can’t help but jump in here and say “look at this! Look at that! Why do we need to focus on racism if blacks also kill blacks!”
Hate to break it to you, but "racism" is not even remotely the key cause of why blacks are behind other groups in America today.

Personal decision making and cultural pathologies are the key drivers.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Something tells me post-playing career LeBron will be more successful than post-playing career Jordan.



Jesus Christ
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17087 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:17 pm to
I dont care to get into it with the race thing or the specifics of all LeBron said.

I will say this, that shooting is fricked up. The 2 guys absolutely deserve to go to prison.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73015 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

I mean I dont think it was an explicit racially biased hate crime. But I find it hard to believe it didnt play some underlying part
This is not what people are taking issue with.

People are taking issue with race baiters like lebron trying to extrapolate this into some grand cosmic struggle/issue that afflicts all of society.

Wrong.

There is one victim here, his name was Ahmaud.

"The black community" is not a victim here.

shootings of blacks is not to blame for the severe dysfunctionality of their community.

Read some thomas sowell, by far the smartest writer on what ails the black precincts.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

What is “the underlying racism that causes killings”?


Are we going to pretend like we don’t know the various stories I’m referring to, similar to this one, where a black man/woman was killed in at least some part to racism (whether overt or subconscious)?

Not sure if you’re trying to be intentionally obtuse or if you simply lack the intellectual capacity to understand the concepts of racism and how they play into these type of events.

My guess is you like to keep things pretty simple. You probably don’t understand how race can be involved in a crime like this unless a KKK member guns down a black guy and yells “white power”.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9897 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

Lebron comments on the Ahmaud Arbery shooting


Of course he does.



Gotta try to get people to stop thinking he cheated on his ol lady somehow.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149374 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:21 pm to
quote:


race baiters like lebron trying to extrapolate this into some grand cosmic struggle/issue that afflicts all of society
and I'm totally saying this
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:22 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92781 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:21 pm to
LeBron is always the victim while up on that pedestal
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:22 pm to
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Hate to break it to you, but "racism" is not even remotely the key cause of why blacks are behind other groups in America today. Personal decision making and cultural pathologies are the key drivers.


Hate to break it to you, but I never once said racism is the key cause of why blacks are behind other groups.

It’s incredible the lengths people want to go to avoid admitting racism is a real problem

I’ve never said it’s the biggest problem. Never said black on black crime isn’t an issue.

All I am saying, is racism in America is very real and is an issue to the black community. That is it. That’s the point. No one wants to address that or admit that, and point to problem X or problem Y instead.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73015 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:23 pm to
How many blacks in America were killed last year by white people specifically motivated by race?

Are you seriously arguing that if all racist killings of blacks magically stopped, the black community would start rising?

Give me a break.

Being killed by a racist white is not even a top 10 issue facing a poor black teen growing up in an inner city or poor rural county in the south.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287943 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

white person in America is more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person by a white person.


I’m not talking about normal murders

I’m talking about profiled killings fueled by race such as what happened to this young man.

Smh
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

See he’s not directing these comments at law enforcement he’s directing them at a race of people


I don't think he is. The people in this case called 911 literally to report a black man running in their neighborhood, then the father/son duo rolled out to play vigilante with a shotgun. Then, when Arbery tried to jog around them, son pointed the shotgun and fired. Arbery struggled with him and got shot twice more. Then father/son lied to the cops.

Don't make this about all white people. I'm white and I have no kinship to the actions of the people in this case. There's a far more specific subset of white people that would pull up on a guy and try to play Robocop.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34851 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:24 pm to
It was (is) a fricked up situation

But with ALL of these situations, I always ask, ‘did the perpetrators shoot the guy BECAUSE he was black? Or did he shoot him for another reason and the guy just happened to be black?’


This certain situation may be a bad example, I’m not sure. But I don’t understand why it always has to be a white vs black type of deal
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:25 pm to
Oh my dear god. You can’t make this up. Is this a reply meant for the Onion?

My post:

quote:

Hate to break it to you, but I never once said racism is the key cause of why blacks are behind other groups.

It’s incredible the lengths people want to go to avoid admitting racism is a real problem I’ve never said it’s the biggest problem. Never said black on black crime isn’t an issue.

All I am saying, is racism in America is very real and is an issue to the black community. That is it. That’s the point. No one wants to address that or admit that, and point to problem X or problem Y instead.


Your response:

quote:

How many blacks in America were killed last year by white people specifically motivated by race? Are you seriously arguing that if all racist killings of blacks magically stopped, the black community would start rising? Give me a break. Being killed by a racist white is not even a top 10 issue facing a poor black teen growing up in an inner city or poor rural county in the south.


It’s actually impressive
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:26 pm
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7112 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

thomas sowell

Yeah, you're not to be taken seriously.
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