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re: Largest media markets without a P4 football program
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:00 pm to McMillan
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:00 pm to McMillan
It's wild to see the trajectories of both UCF and USF. In the 2000s the latter was in the Big East and apparently blocked UCF from joining. Boy how the turned have tables since then.
I'm surprised San Diego St isn't in the Big 12.
I'm surprised San Diego St isn't in the Big 12.
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:40 pm to McMillan
Don’t worry, they’re in the process of purchasing our programs
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:24 pm to McMillan
I know this isn’t power 4, but I always think about Corpus Christi, Tx. They have a 4 year college in TX A&M-Corpus Christi (Southland Conference), but they don’t even field a football team.
For reference, CC’s population is 316k while Baton Rouge with LSU has 218k. Make it make sense?
For reference, CC’s population is 316k while Baton Rouge with LSU has 218k. Make it make sense?
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:02 pm to tide06
quote:That is correct, which is precisely why I'm a Reds and Bengals fan for example.
I mean its an actual border town, that makes sense.
Heck you're slightly closer to Lexington, KY than you are Columbus, OH if I'm not mistaken.
Cincinnati is UC, Xavier, Ohio State, Kentucky, and Indiana kinda all mixed together.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:41 pm to WestCoastAg
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I'm saying that you have urban cities that have these schools but they themselves are still after thoughts in them which seems to me what actually matters. Like Chicago and Northwestern or, maybe im wrong, Atlanta and Georgia Tech
GT is definitely bigger in Atlanta than Northwestern is in Chicago. Neither meant as a slight or a complement but just an observation for you: it's pretty similar to what UCLA is to LA or what Cal is to the Bay Area - great history in some respects, really good school, decently big (and wealthy) alumni bases, sports are important but they aren't going to swing with the very top of the heap in football, etc.
Probably doesn't get the recognition it should in this respect, but if there is a school that is large P4 school that completely dominates a major city in almost every conceivable way and is actually in the city, it is UW in Seattle.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:33 am to AbuTheMonkey
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Probably doesn't get the recognition it should in this respect, but if there is a school that is large P4 school that completely dominates a major city in almost every conceivable way and is actually in the city, it is UW in Seattle.
Absolutely. UW is Seattle. I have family out there, and the amount of stuff that they do through and around UW is honestly pretty impressive.
It definitely fits the mold of Urban campus where the school is 100% ingrained with the community.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:38 am to McMillan
Tampa, Cleveland, and San Antonio are likely college football hotbeds though with high levels of viewership.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:42 am to AbuTheMonkey
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GT is definitely bigger in Atlanta than Northwestern is in Chicago. Neither meant as a slight or a complement but just an observation for you: it's pretty similar to what UCLA is to LA or what Cal is to the Bay Area - great history in some respects, really good school, decently big (and wealthy) alumni bases, sports are important but they aren't going to swing with the very top of the heap in football, etc.
GT is also a public school, unlike Northwestern, with a very storied football history.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:48 am to AbuTheMonkey
Chicago is interesting regarding college football fandom. Chicago is the HQ of the Big Ten and people in Chicagoland are college football fans. Northwestern has fans, but it's small. Illinois if it ever managed to win in FB would have a bigger following. ND has a lot of fans. But Chicago also has a lot of fans of Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue, and Iowa. The school I just listed have multiple bars in Chicagoland that are known as bars for fans of those teams. If you want to watch the Michigan State-Rutgers game, but don't have cable or pay for streaming you can go to BWW or a Michigan State bar in Chicago. A lot of the Big Ten grads from the original 10 end up in Chicagoland. Same if you want to watch the Wisconsin Maryland game.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:42 am to McMillan
What bullshite is this?
Mizzou dominates St Louis with Illinois a very distant second place.
Mizzou dominates St Louis with Illinois a very distant second place.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:41 am to danilo
Philly folks are pretty big on Penn State. There is a small carve out for Rutgers, Temple and Syracuse, but it's mostly PSU.
State College is an interesting experience on weekends. On Saturday the entire campus is aligned around PSU and on Sunday, the town is completely split between the Steelers and Eagles.
The NFL needs to have a college series where they match up teams at college stadiums once a year. A Steelers vs. Eagles game at State College would be unreal. I can imagine a Texans vs. Cowboys game in Austin would be amazing as well.
State College is an interesting experience on weekends. On Saturday the entire campus is aligned around PSU and on Sunday, the town is completely split between the Steelers and Eagles.
The NFL needs to have a college series where they match up teams at college stadiums once a year. A Steelers vs. Eagles game at State College would be unreal. I can imagine a Texans vs. Cowboys game in Austin would be amazing as well.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:22 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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A lot of the Big Ten grads from the original 10 end up in Chicagoland.
I lived in the NW burbs and this 100% correct. I was surprised at the amount of Iowa and Michigan gear, and the lack of Ilini merch. My stepson graduated from Illinios a handful of years ago and most of his friends were from Kentucky and Wisconsin.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:04 pm to McMillan
Are Detroit and Kansas City not top 30 markets?
Or are they claiming Ann Arbor and Lawrence are part of those markets?
Or are they claiming Ann Arbor and Lawrence are part of those markets?
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:07 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Charlotte split between UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, and USCe?
Wake forest? Lol maybe NC State you meant. Also Charlotte has a ton of WVU transplants.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:58 pm to Cosmo
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Are Detroit and Kansas City not top 30 markets?
Or are they claiming Ann Arbor and Lawrence are part of those markets?
Not sure about Lawrence, but Washtenaw county is definitely part of metro Detroit. You can get from downtown Detroit to Michigan's campus in about 45 minutes if traffic is smooth.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:04 pm to kilo
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What bullshite is this?
Mizzou dominates St Louis with Illinois a very distant second place.
Is Columbia considered part of the St. Louis Metro area? That's most likely your answer
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:42 pm to jchamil
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Is Columbia considered part of the St. Louis Metro area?
Is Baton Rogue considered part of the New Orleans metro?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:18 pm to kilo
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Is Baton Rogue considered part of the New Orleans metro?
I wouldn’t say so, but it looks like it’s considerably closer than Columbia to St Louis
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:55 pm to jchamil
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I wouldn’t say so, but it looks like it’s considerably closer than Columbia to St Louis
Im sorry
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:07 pm to McMillan
What P4 school is in NYC?
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