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re: LANCE: 30 for 30 on ESPN right now

Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:20 pm to
Dudes were taking cortisone and cocaine before the blood doping!

WTF
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4623 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:59 pm to
Lance's first wife and mom looked like sisters...
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:06 pm to
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I'll always be a Lance Armstrong fan. The entire sport cheated. Probably the dirtiest sport out there.


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He is a great American and anyone saying otherwise is trying too hard.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:46 pm to
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I'll always be a Lance Armstrong fan. The entire sport cheated. Probably the dirtiest sport out there.



There's a Rogan podcast out there where -the guy he's interviewing basically says what cyclists do at things like the tour de france, it's unnatural and ultimately terrible for your body.

Sounds like doping might have been the only option.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:07 pm to
I stand with Floyd. Lance tossed him to the curb and Floyd said frick it. I'm not gonna be your doggy when I can be the alpha. Floyds winnis light years beyond anything Lance ever did.
Posted by Tri City Tigers
Member since Oct 2018
2343 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:07 pm to
I would give a testicle to Lance if he needed one.
Posted by Blind Zebras
We comin
Member since Aug 2016
1044 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:11 pm to
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I stand with Floyd. Lance tossed him to the curb and Floyd said frick it. I'm not gonna be your doggy when I can be the alpha. Floyds winnis light years beyond anything Lance ever did.


English. Do you speak it?
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 11:12 pm
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
Member since Mar 2019
829 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:15 pm to
Floyd Landis' doping was way too obvious during the year he won. He completely bonked out on a stage, and the next day he flew up a mountain stage at a ridiculous pace.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103099 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:23 pm to
Lance did it 10 yrs. Floyd had enough. He was behind because he didn't dope then he said frick it. Greatest ride ever. Up hill all the way.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33943 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:41 pm to
Man, Suzy Kolber was a babe in the '90s.
Posted by UAH_Tiger2
Pacific Northwest
Member since Mar 2016
391 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:42 pm to
She still looks great!
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35536 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:46 am to
Go to bed Joe.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:20 am to
Go look up every Tour de France winner

LINK

Not only were the most of the winners before Armstrong doping but the runner ups when he won were doping

Out any cyclist on the tour under the scrutiny Armstrong was under and yours probably find almost every single one of them were cheating.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 5:56 am to
The tour was made for a doper, thats the issue. It is way too intense as far as miles per week for it doping not to happen. Naturally, there’s just not enough rest or everyone’s stamina and speed would diminish greatly over the race.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 6:35 am to
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Like a lot of things, it wasn’t the crime it was the cover up..dude tried to destroy Greg Lemond, screw him

I love how people say this. Greg started accusing Lance of doping after his third tour win. If Lance would have admitted it we would have lost millions of dollars of future earnings, no way anyone admits they were doping in this scenario.

Greg’s accusations soured his relationship with Trek and they dropped his line and sued him because he was threatening their business, and he didn’t do it just once, he kept doing it. In the end Greg was right and Lance was doping, but he didn’t have any proof at the time and his accusations was hurting Trek’s business model.

I’m supposed to believe Greg is the only clean tour winner in half a century, and Lance tried to destroy him. Nah, it’s more likely Greg was jealous because he became a distant second at Trek and he knew everyone was doping on the tour because everyone was doping when he was winning tours. He knew better than most the odds of winning the tour without doping were infinitesimally small. To be honest, Greg’s actions have convinced me he was doping when he won, it’s the only thing that makes sense.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14503 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 6:52 am to
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Like a lot of things, it wasn’t the crime it was the cover up..


This...yes, everyone in the sport was cheating but Lance doubled down that he wasn't and was adamant and obnoxious in the lie that he was innocent and took a lot of shots at a lot of people doubling down on that premise.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28066 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:28 am to
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The guy beat the best in the world, and they were doping too. But for some reason the entire sport made him the bad guy, I would be a prick too.


lol as if that is the only reason. get ur mouth off his nuts
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18405 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:31 am to
watched a youtube short comparing lance and greg. look back at the cyclists at the time greg was winning. ALL dopers. I always believed greg was winning natty but there was no way. He was juicing too.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5537 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:51 am to
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Lance Armstrong raised $470 million for cancer research. F all the haters.


That's not true. The vast majority went to cancer awareness. There was always sketchy stuff going on with his foundation. Lance got a private jet out of it and big fees as a speaker and there was a weird overlap between the non-profit side of Livestrong and the for-profit Livestrong.com which has always been a content farm.

Lance's real impact was in giving hope to cancer survivors as a symbol but whether they still felt that way after finding out that he was actually using drugs that could make cancer worse or even grow to win bike races is up to them.

The most fricked up thing about doping in cycling is all the shady docs who run the doping programs. These guys make massive amounts of money, Lance paid his doc, probably the best ever, a premium to keep him away from the other top guys.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:31 am to
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everyone in the sport was cheating but Lance doubled down that he wasn't and was adamant and obnoxious in the lie that he was innocent and took a lot of shots at a lot of people doubling down on that premise.

Just curious, how would you have handled it? If you didn’t dope you have no career in cycling, if you admit it you have no career in cycling. The funny thing is everyone in cycling knows these two facts, so what is the right way to handle it?
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