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re: LA Tech Hires Tyler Summitt (Son of Pat Summitt) as Head Coach

Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:27 am to
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:27 am to
I know where you are coming from and I kind of agree. But at the same time, if Leon Barmore never retired Tech would still be an elite program today. If Tech had hired Kim Mulkey, same thing (she made a poor Baylor program an elite program almost overnight).

LSU passed Tech when we made some bad coaching hire decisions. They can be good again, but probably never UCONN/Tennessee elite like they were before Leon retired.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36985 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:22 am to
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if Leon Barmore never retired Tech would still be an elite program today.


Everyone has to retire at some point though...


quote:

If Tech had hired Kim Mulkey, same thing


I don't think Tech could have afforded Mulkey over the long run. She makes over $1 million at Baylor. There is no way Tech could pay that...unless she would have been happy making $300K
Posted by JackVincennes
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
4201 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:48 am to
I can't believe people are mocking this hire. We have a seven page thread on the new women's bball coach at Tech. The national media is talking about it after the only two losing seasons in the history of the program. If you want to talk recruiting is the lifeblood of a program, the kid just hired possibly the best recruiter in the history of the game. DeMoss must not think this kid is going to be a train wreck because she was in pretty quick. I like the hire they can't get any worse than they are now and this might be lightning in a bottle.
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:54 am to
Agree. My point was that Tech didn't get left behind because the big schools started caring about WBB and passed them by... it was mainly because their legendary coach retired. He would still be kicking their arse today on a 300K salary.
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
6209 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:04 am to
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both of those programs are in no place to ever compete with the big boys ever again. that is a fact

Tech is in the same position. The landscape has forever changed. They cannot consistently compete anymore


Man you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously you don't know jack shite about LA Tech women's basketball.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53795 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:14 am to
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DeMoss must not think this kid is going to be a train wreck because she was in pretty quick. I like the hire they can't get any worse than they are now and this might be lightning in a bottle.





and if he does good yall are just a stepping-stone job now like the rest of the conference...
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:19 am to
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La Techs glory days in womens basketball are way way gone.

The last chance they had to return to even a semblence of their glory days in womens BB went out with Kim Mulkey.

Back when Barmore was winnging big at La Tech, the big colleges were not even on the radar in womens BB. A Tech could go after the big recruits without much competition from the big schools.

Now, a mid-major like La Tech is competing with the big schools for the talent.

The big schools can offer a talented kid a lot more than a school stuck out in the middle of the hills of Lincoln parish.


Well stated.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36985 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Tech is in the same position. The landscape has forever changed. They cannot consistently compete anymore


quote:

Man you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously you don't know jack shite about LA Tech women's basketball.



Well I do know jack shite about LA Tech women's basketball. I am very familiar with their history. They will not ever again compete for a national championship...and that is an obvious fact, regardless of their history. Their AD even said that all he expects is to contend for the NCAA's. When they were "legendary", nobody else gave a shite. When other schools started using resources toward women's basketball, Tech stood firm because they didn't have the resources and got passed up. When LA Tech won the first NCAA title in 1982, do you know who they beat?? Cheyney State. Any idea where they are these days? In the next couple of years after that, schools that made the Final Four included Old Dominion, Western Kentucky, and Northeast Louisiana (ULM). How are they doing these days?? They are very mediocre mid-majors that just hope they can get to the tournament, let alone contend for a title.

I wish Summitt well. I hope he brings respectability back to that program. They were embarrassing under Witherspoon. They lost and they played a very thuggish brand of basketball. He can clean that up in no time.
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:38 pm to
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When LA Tech won the first NCAA title in 1982, do you know who they beat?? Cheyney State.


But they lost the championship to USC the next year, lost to Tennessee in 1987, beat Auburn in 1988, lost to North Carolina in 1994, and lost to Tennessee in 1998.

Top 10 schools for NCAA final appearances:

1. Tennessee (13)
2. UCONN (8)
3. La Tech (6)
4. Stanford (4)
5. USC, Notre Dame, Auburn (3)
8. Baylor, Purdue, Old Dominion (2)
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8091 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 12:51 pm to
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ever again compete for a national championship...and that is an obvious fac


If teams like George Mason, VCU, and Butler can compete in the mens Tech can compete in the womens. It can be done, it takes financial commitment from the school to pay and keep good coaches.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36985 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:28 pm to
Last women's non-BCS school to make the Final Four: SW Missouri State in 2001.

Not many mid-majors make it far these days in the women's game. Maybe Tech will be the exception....but it won't be due to their illustrious history.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78708 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:41 pm to
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If you want to talk recruiting is the lifeblood of a program, the kid just hired possibly the best recruiter in the history of the game.


How's that exactly?
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36985 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:43 pm to
Mickie DeMoss was a great recruiter...not sure I would say the best ever though.
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:07 pm to
Over the past three decades, DeMoss has cemented a reputation as one of the country’s most elite coaches. A survey of the nation's NCAA Division I women's head basketball coaches tabbed her as the top assistant in the country in 2000. She also garnered that distinction from a 1998 The Women's Basketball Journal poll.

While at UT, DeMoss was considered a great technical mind, floor coach and entertainer. Off the court, she was regarded as one of the best recruiters in the college game, year after year recruiting future All-SEC and All-America award-winners, while stockpiling rosters with the kind of players essential to winning national championships.
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:13 pm to
“For the last 25 years, Mickie has been the best single recruiter this nation has ever had,” Leon Barmore said.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78708 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 2:15 pm to
With Mickie and Tyler around you wonder if Pat did anything besides crossword puzzles.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73855 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:08 pm to
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If teams like George Mason, VCU, and Butler can compete in the mens Tech can compete in the womens. It can be done, it takes financial commitment from the school to pay and keep good coaches.
mens and women's basketball are COMPLETELY different. A great coach can recruit and develop underrated talent to compete with the big boys sometimes

Not in women's basketball
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 7:10 pm
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