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re: Kyler Murray must watch 4 hours of film per week as part of his contract

Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:47 pm to
I’m sorry, if that stipulation had to be put in the contract, you aren’t worthy of the contract.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:28 pm to
I believe it’s in addition to what they watch as a team and I’m sure he usually watches more than that on his own anyway. But it’s a bad look if they aren’t positive that he will do it after being paid
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:21 am to
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Rumor is he was never about film or work while at OU. Just said let me go play. That's from a ex player.


Like Manziel, that was probably for the best.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:20 am to
And then we have these dumbazz polls about who are the better QBs in the NFL. How many times do we mention the QBs who love film study, know the playbook inside out, understand a full progression read offense, can read defenses and player tendencies, and can get their team in and out of bad plays at the LOS? To name a few. The truth is, the greatest of all great QBs get it between the ears. I'll take football IQ over a stopwatch anytime.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:30 am to
I guess he is no film junkie then.
Posted by sicboy
Member since Nov 2010
79102 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:55 am to
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Rumor is he was never about film or work while at OU. Just said let me go play. That's from a ex player.


Like Manziel, that was probably for the best.


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"Guys are good in the NFL because they know film, they study hard, and they work even harder in the offseason," Manziel said.

"So I didn't know that. And I feel like, if Cleveland did any of their homework, they would have known that I was a guy that didn't come in every day and watch film. I was a guy that didn't really know the Xs and Os of football."



I remember a quote from somewhere about how it never clicked with Manziel that this was a full time job. His time away from practice and the games was his own and he turned football off.

For people like Manziel and Murray who are limited, size wise and with physical ability, this is not a good combination.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 7:58 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:38 am to
The theme I'm seeing with a lot of NFL teams these days is the hot start and then slow crawl of these spread 'em out and hurry up NFL offenses. A lot of this stuff now is just carbon copies of the college game. These offenses want to keep it super simple so they can go fast and attack defenses. Is it in reality just too simple and NFL defenses start figuring out the tendencies of these athletic QBs?


Why does Kyler Murray feel the need to study a lot of film when the easy answer is that the Air Raid offense, with its limited formations, motions, and concepts is just simple in design and simple in execution? And then the NFL starts catching up to Kingbury's stuff as the season progresses. They seem to do it every year.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:02 am to
He has BUST written all over him.
So many teams fight and fight and fights not to have a pure passer in the pocket, who can escape rush thru knowledge.
Brady, Brees, Ben, Rodgers, etc
They all want these flashy runners who can kinda throw.

It never works once the playoffs start.

Very very few Patrick Mahomes/ exist. His passing is elite, and he possess a lot of athleticism.
Lamar doesn't
Murray doesn't
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6944 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:25 am to
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So I guess he'll be the new A's starting second baseman sooner than expected, eh?


They’d make him pay for his own MLB.tv to watch film over there.
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13620 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:24 am to
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They would need some pretty concrete proof that he didn’t study, which I don’t how how they could possibly obtain that.


They have ipads with all the film on them and it tracks how much time/what they are watching on it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61640 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:30 am to
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Putting this clause in was a blunder.

It makes him look like an immature lazy POS, and it makes the Cardinals look like idiots for giving him that big of a contract.

I understand the need to cya. But maybe just tell him it’s expected behind the scenes or something.



Yeah, that's not enough. The reason for this clause is obviously to ties his compensation to the behavior.

They weren't willing to pay him the money he demanded without it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115521 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:36 am to
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They have ipads with all the film on them and it tracks how much time/what they are watching on it.


Yeah my company has production tracking too but it takes all of 4 seconds of thought to get around it and trick the system into thinking you’re doing something you aren’t
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
60931 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:39 am to
I can't get over the fact that they had to put language in his contract that forbids him from playing video games during his mandated film sessions.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61640 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:42 am to
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Yeah my company has production tracking too but it takes all of 4 seconds of thought to get around it and trick the system into thinking you’re doing something you aren’t



I'm not sure why you are pretending this is hard.

It's probably an expectation that he show up on Tuesday with an understanding of the defensive fronts / blitz probabilities. He's probably being asked to be prepared for the weekly game prep.

If a QB is behind, they can't implement the weekly game plan as effectively and it probably leads to tons of game time protection mistakes (which is why Murray is running around so often.)

In other words, they will know for the same reason they know right now...he's not prepared.
Posted by johnadams1776
florida
Member since Jun 2021
479 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:49 am to
he's not arrogant or lazy, its just his IQ is somewhere in the range of 85. can't learn a playbook or process progressions. go take a look at dan patrick interview at the super bowl.
LMAO!
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115521 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:15 pm to
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It's probably an expectation that he show up on Tuesday with an understanding of the defensive fronts / blitz probabilities. He's probably being asked to be prepared for the weekly game prep. If a QB is behind, they can't implement the weekly game plan as effectively and it probably leads to tons of game time protection mistakes (which is why Murray is running around so often.) In other words, they will know for the same reason they know right now...he's not prepared.


These things happen to every QB from time to time no matter how much they study. Good luck arguing that in court

When it comes to court, all that matters is the expressed language on that contract. None of which really covers the team from him slacking on film because there’s no well defined metric or ability to concretely say whether he did or not (atleast not any that couldn’t be easily worked around)

They aren’t going to be able to void his contract because he sucked one week
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40108 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:22 pm to
i dont entirely agree with you, but if the Crdinals take the jamarcus approach and give him bogus film I would hope Kyler has someone in his posse also checking the film to see if the team was trying to catch him
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115521 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:37 pm to
That’s what I’m saying, Kyler will have any system and process in place to make sure this is never at risk

“Hey Jared, you mind pretending to watch this IPad for me for a few hours? Thx dawg”
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65847 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:45 pm to
JaMarcus would be an upper half QB at least in todays NFL. That’s how easy they’ve made the game for QBs.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18629 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 1:16 pm to
Fukin Mental Midget as well. Disaster upcoming
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