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Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:22 am to GeauxWarrior12
do your stats take into account Lebrons two......yes two turnovers in that should have cost him game 6?
As said before...............LeBron should have sucked Ray Allen off after Tuesday nights game.
Also......Kobe has been in the league longer and had more opportunities to take those shots so the stats are skewed.
As said before...............LeBron should have sucked Ray Allen off after Tuesday nights game.
Also......Kobe has been in the league longer and had more opportunities to take those shots so the stats are skewed.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:39 am to CBLSU316
quote:The convenient teammates excuse, but if someone points out Lebron doesn't have as many rings because of his less than stellar CLE supporting cast, that same side doesn't buy the teammate excuse. Kobe and MJ and lots of other greats would have been doing lots of sucking off too, right?
As said before...............LeBron should have sucked Ray Allen off after Tuesday nights game
quote:How does more shots equate to being skewed towards his stats are worse? That doesn't make sense. Lebron has 10 years worth of data, the sample sizes are both large enough to be completely relevant.
Also......Kobe has been in the league longer and had more opportunities to take those shots so the stats are skewed
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:41 am to CBLSU316
quote:That doesn't make much sense. We are talking percentages. Unless you think a larger sample size will normalize James' shooting percentage to near Kobe's dreadful 26% or Kobe will all of a sudden start creating better shots despite slowly slipping athleticism.
Also......Kobe has been in the league longer and had more opportunities to take those shots so the stats are skewed.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:51 am to stout
quote:
Add Kobe's elimination stats for reference if you have them.
5-12-97 - 11pts on 29% shooting Loss
5-24-98 - 6pts on 100% shooting Loss
5-23-99 - 16/8/3 on 44% shooting Loss
6-04-00 - 25/11/7/4 on 47% shooting Win
5-15-03 - 20/6 on 47% shooting Loss
6-15-04 - 24pts on 33% shooting Loss
5-06-06 - 24pts on 50% shooting Loss
5-02-07 - 33pts on 33% shooting Loss
6-17-08 - 22pts on 32% shooting Loss
5-17-09 - 14/7/5/3/2 on 33% shooting Win
6-17-10 - 24/15 on on 25% shooting Win
5-08-11 - 17pts on 39% shooting Loss
So 3-9 with awful numbers
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 10:52 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:14 am to lsupride87
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:18 am to GeauxWarrior12
quote:so in other words, he could have gotten 7+ rings?
His FG% would be better and his team would be better.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:20 am to lsupride87
quote:
5-12-97 - 11pts on 29% shooting Loss
5-24-98 - 6pts on 100% shooting Loss
5-23-99 - 16/8/3 on 44% shooting Loss
6-04-00 - 25/11/7/4 on 47% shooting Win
5-15-03 - 20/6 on 47% shooting Loss
6-15-04 - 24pts on 33% shooting Loss
5-06-06 - 24pts on 50% shooting Loss
5-02-07 - 33pts on 33% shooting Loss
6-17-08 - 22pts on 32% shooting Loss
5-17-09 - 14/7/5/3/2 on 33% shooting Win
6-17-10 - 24/15 on on 25% shooting Win
5-08-11 - 17pts on 39% shooting Loss
So 3-9 with awful numbers
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:20 am to DownSouthCrawfish
Shut up Kobe is the best. He takes the ball in the 4th and shoots it a ton and they win sometimes. Greatness.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:24 am to GeauxWarrior12
ask Pelican fans how clutch Kobe is.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 11:25 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:27 am to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:
ask Pelican fans how clutch Kobe is.
Lets pick one game to define each player. I pick Lebron game 6 vs celtics. Lebron is now therefore the most clutch player ever b/c no other player has ever done what he did that night when his team was facing elimination
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:28 am to SabiDojo
Kobe's clutch gene was putting teams away to where the clutch the gene was not needed
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:28 am to lsupride87
quote:
Lets pick one game
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:30 am to DownSouthCrawfish
Look downsouth, i'm not attacking you, but it is an undeniable fact Kobe has not been good over his entire career in 4th quarters/game winners as Jordan or Lebron. Its not up for argument
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:33 am to lsupride87
his resume says otherwise, but ok
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:38 am to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:His resume shows a lower fg % and game winners % in the 4th q than both Lebron and Jordan. You are either misinformed, a liar, or a troll
his resume says otherwise, but ok
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 11:39 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:38 am to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:not really
his resume says otherwise
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:43 am to lsupride87
For as much as people trash LeBron fans on here, Kobe fans are infinitely harder to have an actual basketball discussion with. Any criticism is immediately met with "rings!!!!", "resume", "clutch!!!!!", "mamba", "well he's obviously doing something right", etc. AlexLSU and VKC ARE the only ones who aren't a complete asses.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:44 am to lsupride87
Stats don't always tell the whole story. Are you saying that Kobe is not clutch?
Shel, I'd like to hear your opinion as well.
Shel, I'd like to hear your opinion as well.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:48 am to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:I believe, for the most part, clutch is a made up term by a bunch of Mass Com media majors who never played sports. The end of the game is the end of the game. Pro athletes are so damn good they are all "clutch." I guarantee if we looked at the stats of all NBA players they are all pretty similar in these so called "clutch" situations
Stats don't always tell the whole story. Are you saying that Kobe is not clutch?
ETA: Why is Tom Brady "clutch" b/c his kicker made the field goals to win the Super Bowl, but Jim Kelly isnt b/c his kicker missed?
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 11:50 am
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