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re: Khalil Mack to Da Bears

Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:22 am to
Posted by kengel2
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Member since Mar 2004
30775 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:22 am to
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That has nothing to do with it.


You dont think key performing has anything do with it.

LINK

I dont think you let Mack walk unless you have someone to at peast fill his spot. Might not be Mack level, but cant be doing that bad.
This post was edited on 9/1/18 at 9:28 am
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:28 am to
Little devils advocate.


For a team that’s still rebuilding like Chicago, is using 2 firsts on a guy you’ll have to pay an outrageous amount for the smartest decision?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:29 am to
Trubisky is on a rookie deal but not the same kind of rookie deal that Russell Wilson and Dak had/have. Those guys were on midround deals worth under a mil per year. Trubisky has around $24 million for his next three years and he didn't exactly look like a franchise guy last season, he didn't even look like a solid game manager either.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:30 am to
I think they're much closer than the Raiders.

On defense they now have Mack, Floyd, Smith, Jackson, Hicks, and some other good D-lineman. Those are good players at every level.

On offense they have a good RB, a concrete QB starter, and they just added a bunch of WRs and Burton on offense.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them compete for the North this year.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44838 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:32 am to
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I know the Browns were interested and am a little surprised they didn't make that move with the cap room they have. They loaded up on the offense this offseason, and Mack would be perfect on the other side of Garrett to help their defensive rebuild


Their roster has improved a ton but they still aren't quite good enough to make a move like this. This is a "win right now" move. The Browns would have made this move in 2019.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:33 am to
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For a team that’s still rebuilding like Chicago, is using 2 firsts on a guy you’ll have to pay an outrageous amount for the smartest decision?

Mack isn't too old and is a proven super-elite guy. DPOY-caliber talent. their chances of drafting a similar guy with both picks is cloe to 0%

also if they have the cap room, they can front-load the mack deal. this link says they still have $23M in cap room. you can front-load the contract, use that cap room up now, and it lessens the blow down teh road
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:34 am to
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Their roster has improved a ton but they still aren't quite good enough to make a move like this. This is a "win right now" move. The Browns would have made this move in 2019.

also the Browns have Garrett and Ogbah

plus they passed on Chubb in the draft. they seem happy with their edge guy
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:39 am to
You rarely see teams front load contracts in the NFL, so I doubt they do that. He'll get the money he's due this year under his current contract, but his extension for starting next season is when he'll really cash in. The Bears just don't need to go full stupid like the Rams did.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31579 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:43 am to
Damn good move for the Bears. They had a good defense last year. This gets them a top 5 defense potentially
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:48 am to
Mack is a game changer.
He will "keep" until the bears trubisky is better.
1 year.
Posted by BS
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
16533 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:51 am to
You have to understand that Nagy’s offense is expected to be very innovative compared to last year’s OC. Plus Mitch has more weapons and that experience under his belt. I also know they didn’t reveal anything in preseason. Sum it all up, the Bears could possibly have their championship “window” just now opening up. But sure it may take another season or two to reach the peak. Exciting day if you’re a Bears fan like me
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8066 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:55 am to
Being a Raider fan is hard, people...

*ETA -- Two first round picks is nice, and the rumor is Kyle Long will be traded to Oakland in the deal. The thing is, there is no guarantee either of those picks will contribute like Mack did. A bird in hand and all.
This post was edited on 9/1/18 at 10:01 am
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19676 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:56 am to
quote:

For a team that’s still rebuilding like Chicago, is using 2 firsts on a guy you’ll have to pay an outrageous amount for the smartest decision?


Their D was already solid, now it is top 5. The Bears have to think that Trubisky has progressed enough to handle the O. I don't hate the move for the Bears if it truly is just two first rd picks.

ETA honestly it just stinks they are in the NFC which is absolutely loaded
This post was edited on 9/1/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31579 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:56 am to
The Bears now have Akiem Hicks, Leonard Floyd, Danny Trevathan, Roquan Smith and now Khalil Mack. Green Bay and Minnesota ain’t running on that with their shitty OLs.

Their corners are above average and they have at least one good safety in Adrian Amos. In fact, he graded out as a top 5 safety last year. That D is stacked.

They have two good RBs in Howard/Cohen. A potentially good WR corps with Robinson, Gabriel and Anthony Miller, along with Trey Burton. They’re a Jared Goff like ascension from Trubisky from giving the NFC North a third playoff team.
Posted by cigsmcgee
LR
Member since May 2012
5233 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 10:12 am to
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For a team that’s still rebuilding like Chicago, is using 2 firsts on a guy you’ll have to pay an outrageous amount for the smartest decision?




the rebuilding is essentially done. the last piece was an edge rusher opposite Floyd that they never addressed.

When you consider that next years first pick would almost HAVE to be DE, and the assumption that we'll be drafting out of the top 15, it's not as steep as it looks.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 10:29 am to
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The Bears now have Akiem Hicks, Leonard Floyd, Danny Trevathan, Roquan Smith and now Khalil Mack. Green Bay and Minnesota ain’t running on that with their shitty OLs.

Their corners are above average and they have at least one good safety in Adrian Amos. In fact, he graded out as a top 5 safety last year. That D is stacked.

They have two good RBs in Howard/Cohen. A potentially good WR corps with Robinson, Gabriel and Anthony Miller, along with Trey Burton. They’re a Jared Goff like ascension from Trubisky from giving the NFC North a third playoff team.


If they'd just grown a brain and picked Watson, this team would be absolutely stacked.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84871 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 10:42 am to
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Gruden gonna Gruden


Two firsts from Chicago should be pretty damn valuable since they'll suck.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 10:45 am to
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They’re a Jared Goff like ascension from Trubisky from giving the NFC North a third playoff team.


They are already going to have 3.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10456 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 10:53 am to
The Bears can afford this just like the Rams because their QB is under his rookie deal for another 4 years.

Raiders on the other hand couldn’t afford to have a contract like Carr is getting plus what Mack’s will be.

Rams can give Donald that deal when they are paying Goff peanuts for two more years.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Member since Dec 2006
34811 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 10:53 am to
Well frick a duck
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