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re: Ken Griffey Junior was the best center fielder in modern era
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:20 am to WestCoastAg
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:20 am to WestCoastAg
quote:Dude got 15 WAR for creating the walk batflip alone
Did not expect to read a "Kenny lofton over griffey" take today but here we are
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:20 am to Sun God
Get out the rye bread and mustard grandma it’s grand salami time !!!
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:23 am to 3morereps
KG Jr is the reason I am a switch hitter.
Always tried to mimic his stance and swing.
Dude is the GOAT
Always tried to mimic his stance and swing.
Dude is the GOAT
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:44 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
Theres this guy named mike trout
mUh WaR tHo.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:48 am to Rattlehead82
quote:
I agree, but Bonds played left field
Yeah but the guy I quoted said Griffey would’ve been the undisputed GOAT if he stayed healthy which is simply not true imo
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:50 am to The Seaward
Because I think he was the overall better player. Why else?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:08 am to auzach91
quote:
Because I think he was the overall better player. Why else?
That’s fine I guess. The data doesn’t back it up though. Through their age 28 seasons:
Trout- .305/.419/.581 172 wRC+ 73.4 WAR
Griffey- .302/.381/.562 144 wRC+ 57 WAR
Griffey was the better fielder, but that’s about it. Trout is clearly the better offensive player (hitter and baserunner). The one area Trout was significantly better is the most important thing a hitter can do—not make outs. Despite 11 more PAs through age 28, Trout made 188 less outs than Griffey.
The numbers are more pronounced when you account for Trout playing in a pitchers park, Griffey playing in a hitters park. Griffey also played in a slightly better league wide offensive area. League wide OPS from 89-97: 732; league wide OPS 11-19: 728
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 8:09 am
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:11 am to WestCoastAg
This fricking genius.......sorry sparky, Trout is a great player but Griffey Jr. was the best all-around CF in the modern era. I’ve watched Griffey and Trout throughout their entire career and Griffey was the better player point blank. If he didn’t get hurt as much as he did later in his career, he’d probably be the GOAT.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:12 am to 3morereps
When does the modern ERA begin in this conjecture? I won't try to change your mind but I will say the Willie Mays was a special player in every aspect of the game. 
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:12 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
Its trout and there is no debate really
This
Everyone saying otherwise has cabin fever and have been watching too many classic sports footage
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:15 am to Girth Donor
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This fricking genius.......sorry sparky, Trout is a great player but Griffey Jr. was the best all-around CF in the modern era. I’ve watched Griffey and Trout throughout their entire career and Griffey was the better player point blank. If he didn’t get hurt as much as he did later in his career, he’d probably be the GOAT.
The numbers disagree with your subjective evaluation.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:16 am to chalmetteowl
I had the Kenny Lofton game on sega genesis
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:17 am to bbeck
As an owner, I'd rather have Trout.
As a fan, I'd rather watch Junior.
As a fan, I'd rather watch Junior.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:18 am to The Seaward
Were you old enough to watch Griffey debut in 89? I’m just curious.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:20 am to Girth Donor
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Were you old enough to watch Griffey debut in 89? I’m just curious.
I was two, so no. I do remember watching him as a kid though. He was great. Trout is better.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:25 am to The Seaward
Fair enough; we’ll just have to disagree then. I’m just not a “his stats are better, he’s better” kinda guy. I just use the cliche “eye test” and seeing both from the beginning it’s KGJ.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:28 am to Girth Donor
quote:
I’ve watched Griffey and Trout throughout their entire career and Griffey was the better player point blank.
Got the eye test going on over here
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:29 am to LSUweights
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KG Jr is the reason I am a switch hitter.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:30 am to Girth Donor
quote:so what your really saying is you grew up watching Griffey and you’ve ever really watched a lot of trout but Griffey is the guy you remember watching in the 90s being the best center fielder and so in your mind that guy still is. Because the eye test would also indicate that it’s trout
I’m just not a “his stats are better, he’s better” kinda guy. I just use the cliche “eye test”
I mean trout is 6’3 220 pounds he hits for power he hits for average he has plate discipline and he’s really fricking fast. I know some people think war is stupid, but even by conventional stat lines trout is the better ball player. I mean you can still say Griffey is better but that doesn’t make it true. I can scream from the rooftops that I’m the king of Germany but that doesn’t make me the Kaiser either. Trout is better and it’s much less of a debate than Jordan over LeBron or Brady, Brees and manning.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:41 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I guess you have trouble with reading comprehension.......I said I’ve watched both of their careers from the beginning 
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