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re: Keep Politics Out of Sports

Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:34 pm to
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On June 18, 1812, President James Madison signed a declaration of war against Great Britain


I bet he is glad that they kept the military around
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36597 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Keep Politics Out of Sports
But please allow me to foot the bill for publicly-funded sports stadiums and arenas, yes daddy.



I’m confused on this thread. It seems like you are trying to make fun/tongue in cheek that the same people who want politics out of sports are advocating for public funding for stadiums?


I highly doubt that those two groups overlap in significant numbers.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:37 pm to
I doubt it. His original point remains true. He would probably prefer a system like Switzerland or israel.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:38 pm to
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But please allow me to foot the bill for publicly-funded sports stadiums and arenas, yes daddy.
Are there any people out there who actually support public funding of stadiums?

There has been a pretty nationwide push against that and has been one of the catalysts resulting in teams moving.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34583 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Israel


Mandatory military service? I am cool with that as well.
Posted by Swank
South Yorkshire
Member since Oct 2014
848 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:41 pm to
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Mandatory military service? I am cool with that as well.


Nothing says "land of the free" like forcing people to join the military
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34583 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:44 pm to
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Nothing says "land of the free" like forcing people to join the military



It's what James Madison wanted...

*Freedom isn't free, it costs folks like you and me*
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:45 pm to
On a voluntary basis, no doubt.

Wars have never been about freedom.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34583 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:54 pm to
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On a voluntary basis, no doubt.


Which is what we have now?

quote:

Wars have never been about freedom.


They've always been about resources.



Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106396 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:56 pm to
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So giving shine to normal everyday Americans who have committed to protecting our country from enemies both foreign and domestic is bad now?


Not at all. Just makes you a bit hypocritical if you support the grandiose displays for the military in the sports arena while saying they should "keep politics out". The military is political.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34583 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:59 pm to
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grandiose displays for the military in the sports arena


Having service members hold a giant flag over the field while singing the national anthem is grandiose? Flyovers, yeah you have a point for those being grandiose but who in the heck doesn't love a flyover?
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:59 pm to
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But please allow me to foot the bill for publicly-funded sports stadiums and arenas, yes daddy.



Art Modell: NFL owners are 32 Republicans who vote like socialists.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4606 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:20 pm to
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The military is political.


The military isn't political or should be political. The out-of-scope use and display of the military in civilian theater is political.

The DoD has spent millions of dollars to the major sports leagues to "advertise" though the displays and promotions broadcasted on television, including flyovers, national anthem performances, and large flag unfurlings. Both Democrat and Republican administrations have overseen this idea of spending taxpayer money with the intent of receiving dedicated benefits through advertisements disguised as performance.

Military is military. It serves a proper purpose in our society. It's best to not blur the lines with capitalism.

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29477 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:18 pm to
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A better example would be, keep politics out of sports but make a huge show out of honoring the military and becoming a propaganda commercial for the armed forces.

Politics have been part of sports for a long, long time


Remarkably stupid post.

I'm sure you think honoring NYPD/FDNY around 9/11 is political as well? They are government entities, and are therefore political, after all.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29477 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:21 pm to
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Military is military. It serves a proper purpose in our society. It's best to not blur the lines with capitalism.


So they shouldn't recruit for an all-volunteer force by using other forms of advertisement, such as commercials, billboards, etc.? Interesting. What about using contractors or purchasing munitions and funding R&D?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108783 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:27 pm to
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make a huge show out of honoring the military
The fact you think honoring the military is political says alot about you
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112647 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Keep Politics Out of Sports

Unless it's Hershel Walker or Aubrey Huff or Tyler Eifert!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112647 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:29 pm to
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Just makes you a bit hypocritical if you support the grandiose displays for the military in the sports arena while saying they should "keep politics out". The military is political.


Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4606 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:03 pm to
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So they shouldn't recruit for an all-volunteer force by using other forms of advertisement, such as commercials, billboards, etc.? Interesting. What about using contractors or purchasing munitions and funding R&D?


I'd argue well-run companies don't need to spend money to advertise their business. Especially ones lacking free-market competition.

But feel free to go ahead and continue War Hawking.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29477 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:07 pm to
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I'd argue well-run companies don't need to spend money to advertise their business. Especially ones lacking free-market competition.




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But feel free to go ahead and continue War Hawking.


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