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Kansas signs Bill Self to lifetime contract
Posted on 4/2/21 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/2/21 at 10:57 am
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Jesse Newell
@jessenewell
KU Athletics has signed coach Bill Self to a lifetime contract. It's a new five-year rolling agreement that automatically adds one year at the conclusion of each season for the remainder of his career.
Between the NOA and getting pantsed by USC, he earned it amirite?
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:03 am to BrerTiger
Lol. They trying to get ahead of UNC.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:06 am to BrerTiger
Wild to think that he replaced Roy Williams at KU. What a fricking hire.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:08 am to BrerTiger
When’s it time to start talking about Self as an underachiever?
The Big 12 streak was literally the fans pride and joy for the last 6 years or so of that run. Without that, people are scratching their head going, feels like he should have done more. Does he ever win another?
The Big 12 streak was literally the fans pride and joy for the last 6 years or so of that run. Without that, people are scratching their head going, feels like he should have done more. Does he ever win another?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:11 am to LSUShock
Self is an overrated bum. No UNC fan wanted him.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:11 am to Athos
Just throw 10 mil a year at Mark Few
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:25 am to BrerTiger
The athletic is gonna be so mad about this they are gonna write ten articles about will wade as punishment
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:26 am to LSUShock
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When’s it time to start talking about Self as an underachiever?
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Does he ever win another?
Coach K and Jay Wright are the only active coaches left with more than one (not counting Pitino). I would just say that it's hard to win the NCAA Tournament. Wright did it with a lot of the same core, too. Self had that chance in 2010 with some scraps left from the 2008 team and blew it against Northern Iowa. 2010 was a pretty weak year and they were on the other side of the draw as Kentucky.
But Self is only 58. Assuming no major NCAA sanctions, he'll be back in the Final Four multiple times in the next 10 years. I would say he is the most likely coach to get to two out of any of the guys with one right now. Above Boeheim, Izzo, Calipari, and Bennett.
Few will probably get to two before any of those guys the way he has Gonzaga rolling, though.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:40 am to BrerTiger
Yeah, I don't get this at all. Kansas and Self are still under an ongoing investigation. So that alone probably would make other schools leery of paying huge money to lure him away from KU. That would undoubtedly include UNC. Plus, Kansas is one of the 5 or so bluebloods of CBB. There is really nowhere to move "up". At best he could make a lateral move, but I doubt that place is UNC. Williams didn't leave KU because it was a bad job. He left ONLY because an equally great job opened up at his Alma Mater. He wouldn't have left KU for any other job but UNC.
Is KU concerned that Self would leave for the NBA? If so, big deal? That would help the school to some degree in the potential sanctions and it would STILL be a very desirable job.
I get Texas Tech being willing to discuss bending over and giving Beard whatever he wanted to stay (i.e. a "life time contract"). But that is because Beard IS TTU basketball in terms of it being a championship contender. They will now go back to "also ran" status in the Big 12 because it is not a desirable job. Kansas can find a big another big name HC and has a long history of being great BEFORE Self stepped foot on campus.
Is KU concerned that Self would leave for the NBA? If so, big deal? That would help the school to some degree in the potential sanctions and it would STILL be a very desirable job.
I get Texas Tech being willing to discuss bending over and giving Beard whatever he wanted to stay (i.e. a "life time contract"). But that is because Beard IS TTU basketball in terms of it being a championship contender. They will now go back to "also ran" status in the Big 12 because it is not a desirable job. Kansas can find a big another big name HC and has a long history of being great BEFORE Self stepped foot on campus.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:43 am to BrerTiger
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It's a new five-year rolling agreement that automatically adds one year at the conclusion of each season for the remainder of his career.
We did this with Paul Hewitt and it was a complete disaster.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:08 pm to BrerTiger
Many years of Kansas choking in the NCAA Tournament to come. Nice!
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:19 pm to Eat Your Crow
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Assuming no major NCAA sanctions, he'll be back in the Final Four multiple times in the next 10 years.
Will he, though? His teams seem to always play really tight in the tournament.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 12:20 pm to LSUShock
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The Big 12 streak was literally the fans pride and joy for the last 6 years or so of that run
I mean, I know they expect more at KU but that streak was pretty fricking impressive.
I understand that no Big 12 program is even in the same atmosphere as KU, but they had to deal with some pretty good runs by most of the conference's teams at some point and they still came out on top over and over again.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 1:03 pm to Eat Your Crow
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Assuming no major NCAA sanctions, he'll be back in the Final Four multiple times in the next 10 years.
Maybe, and I feel stupid saying he's "only" made 3 Final Fours, but he's been there 18 years, and never had a team lower than a 4 seed. He's also been a 1 seed seven times.
Given the strength of his teams entering March, I think it's fair to say he has underachieved a bit. Especially since KU has now apparently deemed him untouchable, despite the NCAA hovering around.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 1:07 pm to LSUShock
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hen’s it time to start talking about Self as an underachiever?
We’ve been saying this over here
Posted on 4/2/21 at 1:42 pm to nvasil1
1 seed 7x. 3 Final Fours
Posted on 4/2/21 at 1:51 pm to VADawg
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His teams seem to always play really tight in the tournament.
In fairness that seems to be KU problem, not just Self. Roy Williams had some terrific teams that bowed out early to the likes of UTEP, UVA, and Rhode Island.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 4:49 pm to LSUShock
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When’s it time to start talking about Self as an underachiever?
Why does everyone say this? He won 14 straight conference championships. He only has one national championship, but hasn’t been lower than a four seed at KU. He has KU in the Final Four as a one seed at a rate that’s average compared to all other schools. If you’re a KU fan, do you wish KU had more championships and Final Fours? Yeah. Is the NCAA Tournament also on average the most randomized way to determine a champion? Yeah. The Northern Iowa and VCU losses weren’t great, but that’s the tournament.
If a lack of championships means he’s overrated, then what coach isn’t considered overrated at this point?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 4:56 pm to BrerTiger
So what's the buyout with this Charlie Weiss deal?
That's where the real money is. I think Weiss got $30 million from Notre Dame just to end the contract.
Kansas gave him a hefty buyout too.
You add in the salaries at both stops and Weiss made $64.5 million for a record of 41-49.
That's where the real money is. I think Weiss got $30 million from Notre Dame just to end the contract.
Kansas gave him a hefty buyout too.
You add in the salaries at both stops and Weiss made $64.5 million for a record of 41-49.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 5:02 pm to BrerTiger
Still no tweet from Vitale condemning Kansas for extending a coach whose program was caught up in the FBI investigation. Dan Wolken is a bleeding vag but at least he's consistent and is menstruating over this too.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 5:08 pm
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