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re: Just go ahead and either cancel these bowl games or expand the playoffs

Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:52 am to
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38406 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:52 am to
It’s not about the Playoffs, this shite wasn’t happening when the BCS was alive and it was only two teams. This has become more a product of the society we live in today vs 10-12 years ago.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2723 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:53 am to
The solution is simple. 16 team playoff. 10 conference champs and 6 at large.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:17 am to
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Y’all beat up on a defeated UF team and think you deserve a shot at the big boys?


are you retarded?
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3371 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:20 am to
The playoffs were created to find the #1 team. Not keep a bunch of quitters on a team for a bowl game. Ultimately bowls are exhibitions, just how they started. Bowls lost their luster before the playoffs. It’s a lot cheaper to watch on tv than to spend thousands of dollars for a few days for a football game. Fans were quitters before the players were.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 7:23 am
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:24 am to
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It’s not about the Playoffs, this shite wasn’t happening when the BCS was alive and it was only two teams. This has become more a product of the society we live in today vs 10-12 years ago.
but the opt outs aren't stopping anytime soon....thus "cancel these bowl games or expand the playoffs." One of the two needs to happen.
And strictly from a revenue standpoint, moving the bowl games to the beginning of the season as someone else suggested earlier in the thread is an intriguing idea. You don't have to worry about this crap, and the conferences still get paid.
Now from a logistics standpoint, that's a different animal.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36514 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:44 am to
Even before the playoff, I always thought, who gives a frick about any bowl, if you aren’t playing in the National Title game? Really?’ It’s not even worth risking injuries...
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:49 am to
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Even before the playoff, I always thought, who gives a frick about any bowl, if you aren’t playing in the National Title game? Really?’ It’s not even worth risking injuries...


individually, I can't fault some of these guys for making those decisions. But it sucks for college football.
Posted by Drew Brews
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:49 am to
I’m pretty sure the bowls mostly put those kickoff games on as it is. Obviously they’d like to have both, but I’m sure they’d rather slap a Sugar Bowl logo on the field for LSU V. Florida St in a couple years if their only other option is going extinct.

I don’t like it, but I think it could happen.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:59 am to
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The solution is simple. 16 team playoff. 10 conference champs and 6 at large.

And have the title game in Atlanta every year.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31006 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:11 am to
To me it's not even about the bowl game opt outs, as others suggested, kids will get 5 or 6 good games on tape and start quiting earlier and earlier.

I didn't want playoffs as I thought it would be a thing we're everyone was seen as a loser if they didn't make it, I and many others were correct. It's been horrible for college football as a whole.

Unfortunately there is no putting the genie back in the bottle and only way to really save cfb as we know it is as follows

Lower scholarship limits to a max of 70, 20 kids per class, grad transfers don't count toward the class, only total. Have to have parity somewhat and all parts of the country involved or you are fricksd long term and we revert back to it being a regionalism sport.

Kids gets one free transfer out of conference after freshman year only. After that it's a 2 year sit out unless it's a grad transfer. No hardships or any other bullshite. No the coach is leaving bullshite, no some random fan called me a mean name bullshite, no I got beat out bullshite, no I'm mentally ill bulkshit. You get 1 and only after freshman year. Or bust your arse and graduate, otherwise stfu

All coachingbstaffs have the same number of on field coaches and a max amount of analysts allowed and also max amount of other behind the scene personel allowed.

Expand the playoffs to 16 teams. 5 conference champs, 11 at large. This is if G5 wants to stay apart of it. If not, just do 8. If 16, we need to cut it to 8 conferences. 5 power plus 3 smaller conferences. Win one of the smaller conferences with 1 loss or fewer and you are in if you also have a win over a p5 team.

Use original bcs formula to make up 50% of seeding, playoff committee ranking for other 50%. Seed 1-16.

Cut regular season to 8 conference games for all conferences. All conferences must have championship game. 8 conference and 2 non conference games.

All bowls but the biggest 4 are moved to the season opening weekend, labor day weekend.

Comfernece championship is played 1st Saturday in December.

1st round is 3rd Saturday in December. Played on site of the conference champions or higher seed if 2 non conference champions are playing against each other.

2nd round(round of 8) is played new years day at the four big bowls. Can bid this out, but my suggestion would be

Sugar- 8:45 pm
Rose - 5:30 pm
Orange- 2 pm
Cotton- 10:30 am

You are taking back new years day. Its your day and it would be huge.


Semifinals on one of the middle Saturdays in January, usually close to 10 days, but can't be more that 2 weeks after round of 8. This is played on the campus of the conference champion or the higher seed. This year it would be on the 9th, a simple one week

Finals are the Saturday before the super bowl at a site bid out. Make it huge like the superbowl. Huge half time show, huge pre game show etc.

It works cause it keeps teams in the race much longer. It also works because it gets all sides of the country involved. It works because no more super teams or the same two teams playing every year. It will hurt the big boys, including lsu, but overall it's good for the sport snd only way it survives long term.

Players wouldn't opt out cause they would have something to play for. Preserves the bowl system with them being at the beginning and allows a ton of flexibility in scheduling. You could even have conference challenges like big 10 vs pac 12 etc etc cause one or two losses doesn't kill you anymore.

It puts the emphases on conference champions. Gives the G5 the ability to create 3 really good conferences and ability to get in and pkay for it all. Gives them the ability to host, etc etc.

I'm good with the sport going back to a really regionalized sport like the 70s-90s, but realize all the money stops flowing then too.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10174 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Lower scholarship limits to a max of 70, 20 kids per class, grad transfers don't count toward the class, only total. Have to have parity somewhat and all parts of the country involved or you are fricksd long term and we revert back to it being a regionalism sport.

Kids gets one free transfer out of conference after freshman year only. After that it's a 2 year sit out unless it's a grad transfer. No hardships or any other bullshite. No the coach is leaving bullshite, no some random fan called me a mean name bullshite, no I got beat out bullshite, no I'm mentally ill bulkshit. You get 1 and only after freshman year. Or bust your arse and graduate, otherwise stfu

All coachingbstaffs have the same number of on field coaches and a max amount of analysts allowed and also max amount of other behind the scene personel allowed.


This really needs to happen or a lot of historic colleges like Texas, USC, Michigan, Tenn, FSU, etc... will never be relevant again. They would have to make a great coaching hire and have several high ranked recruiting classes in a row to catch up to the teams that have been in the playoffs the past few years. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

The only way the opt outs are going to stop is if the NFL starts punishing the players that opt out. I can't say that I blame them for opting out, they can easily come back if needed to finish their degree.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20761 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:35 am to
Limit the number of bowls so the achievement of making a bowl actually means something. Get rid of the meaningless ESPN-owned crap bowls.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18364 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:46 am to
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And strictly from a revenue standpoint, moving the bowl games to the beginning of the season as someone else suggested earlier in the thread is an intriguing idea. You don't have to worry about this crap, and the conferences still get paid.


But wouldn't it destroy the regular season instead of the bowl season?

Once a team realizes it's not going to a conference championship or playoff game, the best players will opt out.

Then we'd destroy traditionally big rivalry games because it'd be the scrubs playing for nothing. Or you'd have an undefeated Alabama team playing a 2-3 loss Auburn team and Auburn would have its NFL prospects opting out.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27819 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:51 am to
Fact is players are just more aware of the economics their talents are driving than they’ve ever been in the past. The model was imbalanced allowing schools, coaches, tv networks, etc to benefit at the star players expense. The college model just doesn’t work. It is not efficient. It relied on everyone purposefully ignoring that the major stars are just going to college because they have no real other option to make it to the nfl. And college life isn’t really that bad at a major college: world class training, free room and board, a few extras on the side. So everyone went along with it for the most part.

“Just because something doesn’t last forever, it doesn’t mean it wasnt meaningful / special.”
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13621 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:58 am to
Just go ahead and cancel the playoffs and put the two best teams in the championship. Notre Dane is not good enough, Ohio State hasn’t earned it with 1/2 a season. Only two semifinal games have been competitive since the start the playoffs.

Instead of further diluting a bad product they should consolidate to improve it. Fewer bowl games and no semifinal would be a start. Nobody realistically thinks Oklahoma or Florida have a chance at beating the best.

Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15778 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:08 am to
They need to get college football into divisions by revenue. Have 32 teams per division and a 8 team playoff. So that would make 32 teams in postseason.

Would crown 4 division champs.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10970 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:30 am to
Mad dash to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs...
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1829 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:43 am to
It's getting ridiculous. I'm flying out tomorrow to watch the Orange Bowl and I fear a beat down due to our best players not participating. Next season, I may choose not to attend the Bowl game as this trend is likely to continue.

This is only going to grow. What's to prevent Sam Howell, for example, from opting out next season? The NFL scouts have already deemed him to be a 1st round pick. Same goes for Trever this season. Why take the chance goes the reasoning.
Posted by jglass3lsu
Member since Jan 2007
882 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:48 am to
1. Pay the kids. Preferably with a bonus system for participating in postseason/bowls.
2. Limit scholarships to 20 per team, forcing at least some parity.
3. Eliminate in conference transfers and reinstitute sit out penalties for transfers.
4. Play only one non-conference game per year. That’s it for live warm ups.
5. Swap to DII 16 game playoff system.
6. Eliminate all other bowls.

The kids view the bowls as injury risk and the schools/NCAA getting a payday at their expense. They’re right about it too. Until you make all postseason activity meaningful, the best will not participate.

Even with the adjustments, the best prospects on mid-level and bad teams will opt out to preserve themselves for the draft. Frankly, they should.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28045 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:23 am to
this would of been the year to expand, if just for the year.

everyone except the NFL, had bogus titles. Why not bogus it up along with them,


bogus= Months off between season and playoffs, which was bogus.
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