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re: Jon Jones popped hot,stripped of belt

Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:19 am to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:19 am to
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Fighter.
Not IMO. It's like being a sprinter during the reign of Usain Bolt. No matter how good you are, you'll never be better than the other guy.

I really don't care about PEDs in sports. I know it's cheating but it really doesn't bother me.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47807 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:32 am to
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How do you pass every test before the fight, but fail the test from fight night? Steroids don't work that quickly.


thats why I was saying I thought it was more mental. He needed that edge mentally.

either that or these guys have figured out ways to beat the test in the past but usada caught on or something.

That kind of makes me wonder if these different camps are more involved in trying to find ways to game the system.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70011 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:38 am to
I don't think this steroid is injectable, just orally.

It's oral half life is about 16 hours which makes it easier to detect than an oral d-bol

The methods to cheat the test will always be ahead but not every fighter has the means to do so. But the random testing is getting better
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17602 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:41 am to
UFC has fallen so far down my list. The most intriguing things these days have been women fighters, drug tests, and boxing matches
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 7:41 am to
I'm withholding judgment on this one. I'm far from a JBJ fan but this just doesn't make sense.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:03 am to
If you look at JJ's actions over the last 5 years this makes perfect sense. The guy is a chode
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9921 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:03 am to
Can someone tell me if there is a precedent for the idea of "vacating" losses in MMA? If Jones is proven hot, does DC still have to show the loss in his record? What about when Hunt lost to Lesnar?
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:04 am to
It will show was a no contest
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:05 am to
It will be changed to No Contest.
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2954 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:07 am to
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It will be changed to No Contest


The concussion will stand though
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:25 am to
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I really don't care about PEDs in sports. I know it's cheating but it really doesn't bother me.


Right there with you, tbh.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111470 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:28 am to
It can not bother y'all. That is great. But this drug he took created a monumental advantage in the sport of MMA. To deny is simply sticking your head in the sand
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:29 am to
I didnt deny anything. I just don't care
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:31 am to
Ok.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111470 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:32 am to
Not caring for baseball is one thing. I get that

However, I kinda care when one goon is anabolic roided up while beating on another man. It seems like extreme bulkshit in a one on one fight
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:34 am to
I mean when would you care? If DC added some lead weight in his gloves, would you not care? If he put some stuff in Jones food before the fight would you care? I am just honestly trying to see when cheating for a huge advantage would make you care
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:35 am to
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Not caring for baseball is one thing. I get that



No, you don't get it--i don't care in general about PEDs. Boxing, MMA, cycling, track, baseball, etc.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 8:36 am
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:35 am to
Well right now, I don't care enough about this discussion to answer your hypothetical questions.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:36 am to
Me either. It's entertainment for me. Hell, Pride was my favorite organization to watch. They specifically said in their contract, in bold letters, that they will not test for steroids or pain killers.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111470 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 8:37 am to
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No, you don't get it--i don't care in general about PEDs. Boxing, MMA, cycling, track, baseball, etc.


No I do get it

I think not caring about steroid use, but caring about the fairness of a one on one competition is a different issue....
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