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re: JoePa knew about Sandusky in 1976
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:04 pm to sms151t
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:04 pm to sms151t
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he didn't control who had access
He likely controlled everything about the university if he wanted to, but he absolutely controlled who had access to the football buildings. If he went to them and requested Sandusky not have access to the football buildings, Sandusky wouldn't have had access to the football buildings. Stop playing dumb.
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:05 pm to sms151t
The morality of the situation is the only important thing here.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I want to reflexively say PSU just has terrible people for fans, but then I realize they're just doing what any major college fanbase would do in that situation.
If this exact same story came out involving Alabama and Nkck Saban, Penn State fans would be telling him to burn in hell and Bana fans would find ways to defend it. It's just the twisted nature of diehard sports fandom.
Penn State fans just look bad because it happened to them and not the rest of us.
I disagree. Paterno built a personality cult that is absolutely unmatched. I can't think of another coach in sport today that would inspire it, except perhaps Coach K at Duke, maybe Bill Snyder at KSU, but even they don't compare to me. He was much bigger than someone like Saban to them. If you've ever met and talked at length with a Penn State fan before this happened you understand.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:07 pm to lsupride87
LSU doesn't have a relationship with a coach like that, though. Your fanbase has been lukewarm on Miles for years, turning on him would be easy.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:08 pm to sms151t
He's supposed to protect the kids and help the victims.
Only a person complicit in the abuse would choose to harbor a criminal and continue to support the behavior for decades.
SMS, as someone who works with kids I'd expect you to be a little more sensitive to this issue. As sexing up students is an issue you're trained to watch for and be vigilant and alert for the signs and report abuse to authorities not just the principal or superintendent.
Only a person complicit in the abuse would choose to harbor a criminal and continue to support the behavior for decades.
SMS, as someone who works with kids I'd expect you to be a little more sensitive to this issue. As sexing up students is an issue you're trained to watch for and be vigilant and alert for the signs and report abuse to authorities not just the principal or superintendent.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:10 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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disagree. Paterno built a personality cult that is absolutely unmatched. I can't think of another coach in sport today that would inspire it, except perhaps Coach K at Duke, maybe Bill Snyder at KSU, but even they don't compare to me. He was much bigger than someone like Saban to them. If you've ever met and talked at length with a Penn State fan before this happened you understand.
Agree to disagree, I've seen enough fanbases defend enough shitty things to ever believe it's just a Penn State issue. There are Bama fans who would literally kill people to keep something like this secret.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:It isn't in our blood to do that. We never have and never will
LSU doesn't have a relationship with a coach like that, though. Your fanbase has been lukewarm on Miles for years, turning on him would be easy.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:12 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
I'm a mandated reporter he was not.
Again the morality and legality issues are seperate and people are struggling separating it.
Again I never have said he was moral in his decision, but he was legally covered.
My issue is McQueary who saw and did nothing. Nobody on this board talks about him they blame someone who didn't see or understand the situation. McQueary needs to rot in hell more than Paterno.
Again the morality and legality issues are seperate and people are struggling separating it.
Again I never have said he was moral in his decision, but he was legally covered.
My issue is McQueary who saw and did nothing. Nobody on this board talks about him they blame someone who didn't see or understand the situation. McQueary needs to rot in hell more than Paterno.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
I guess the closest current example you could compare it to is Briles at Baylor, but even with that the cases are quite different and I've seen far more Baylor fans turning on him than Penn State fans with Paterno
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:14 pm to sms151t
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My issue is McQueary who saw and did nothing. Nobody on this board talks about him they blame someone who didn't see or understand the situation. McQueary needs to rot in hell more than Paterno.
I don't defend McQueary either but the Penn State cult probably would have had him killed seeing how they reacted to the allegations
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:15 pm to MikeyFL
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I can't even begin to describe how sad and angry this makes me feel. To think this could have all been stopped one full year before Sandusky started that Second Mile abomination... I don't have language strong enough to depict my disgust.
agree
in some aspects Paterno is worst than Sandusky who is OBVIOUSLY a sick frick and deserved to be shanked ( hopefully soon) but JoePa covered it up( his excuse is as weak as the Nazi who were just following orders) for the money and prestige
over a fricking game
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:20 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I will say I think people need to regain perspective. Yes what JoePa did was bad, but it's almost like we've forgotten than Sandusky was the one routinely actually sticking his dick in ten year olds. It seems he's an afterthought at this point.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:20 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
McQueary is out of coaching isn't he?
He knew the magnitude of what he'd be bringing down on himself and his employer.
I think most people would struggle with that. He did come forward eventually and threw his career away.
Penn St has another POS coach who was hired because he'd play ball with the admin in keeping their secrets secret.
He knew the magnitude of what he'd be bringing down on himself and his employer.
I think most people would struggle with that. He did come forward eventually and threw his career away.
Penn St has another POS coach who was hired because he'd play ball with the admin in keeping their secrets secret.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
Klarvin is right.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:22 pm to Rickety Cricket
]the rape, and all he did was pass the message to his superiors. He, the legendary coach who ruled the university and town, could have stopped the rape of children, but he chose not to. That is undisputed.[/quote]
Seriously everyone involved at psu can burn in hell from paterno to the ginger oc who saw the kid getting raped in the shower and didn't do shite
Seriously everyone involved at psu can burn in hell from paterno to the ginger oc who saw the kid getting raped in the shower and didn't do shite
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:23 pm to OWLFAN86
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some aspects Paterno is worst than Sandusky who is OBVIOUSLY a sick frick and deserved to be shanked ( hopefully soon) but JoePa covered it up( his excuse is as weak as the Nazi who were just following orders) for the money and prestige
I disagree, the person committing the crime is always worse in every way than someone who just doesn't say anything about it. I think this attitude stems from a bit of overzealous desire to demonize the more famous individual. Had JoePa been the actual rapist and Sandudky the one who said nothing nobody would be making this argument.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:24 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:I disagree. Yes, what Sandusky did was worse. However, to rape a 10 year old shows he had clear mental issues. Paterno was a man of sound mind
need to regain perspective. Yes what JoePa did was bad, but it's almost like we've forgotten than Sandusky was the one routinely actually sticking his dick in ten year olds. It seems he's an afterthought at this point.
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
Sandusky also gets treated by people like he's mentally handicapped or criminally insane when it comes up. I agree with you though
Posted on 5/5/16 at 8:26 pm to lsupride87
Not of sound mind implies he didn't know right from wrong. Being a pedophile doesn't mean they think it's ok to molest kids, numerous pedophiles have come out saying they fight their urges because they always know it's wrong.
What Sandusky did is no different than a serial rapist or murderer who does it just because they like it.
What Sandusky did is no different than a serial rapist or murderer who does it just because they like it.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 8:27 pm
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