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re: JoePa knew about Sandusky in 1976

Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:23 am to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:23 am to
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Which person *in particular* allowed him to be a part of the Penn State program long enough to gain that merit?


The Athletic Director and the Vice President or President granted it not the Head Coach. I am sure you knew that though.

It is spelled out in the policies and procedures. There was an amendment put in after the case for termination of tenure also.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:26 am to
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I've been around Paterno more than a handful of times and I can say that he and his family are/were good people.


That opinion is equivalent to "he's a good boy, he dindu nuffin"
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:45 am to
It's baffling to me that you can continue to defend Paterno. He sat back and allowed children to be raped. He enabled the rapist. He helped build up the organization that was used as essentially gathering tool to find new victims.

But hey, he told his superiors, after that his hands were tied. He couldn't stop stumping for donations to Second Mile, or stop allowing Sandusky to bring kids on bowl trips, or stop giving Sandusky access to his football buildings to bring kids around. He did everything he could by telling his superiors.

You are a sick human being.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:49 am to
I am defending his legality not his morality. I am sorry you can not separate the two. Also he did not or could not cause him not to have access, that was a institutional decision. That is the only thing I am defending him on.

I have never said what Paterno did was moral.

This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 10:50 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:51 am to
A lot of people knew about Sandusky
Blaming Joe Pa alone is not doing any good anymore, he can't defend himself any longer.
The whole system failed.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:55 am to
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I am defending his legality not his morality.


There is literally not one person in this thread arguing the legality, but you still keep fighting with everyone in the thread.

At some point it goes beyond strawman arguments. You're punching at air talking about legality. But you keep defending him.

You try to insult my intelligence saying I can't separate legality from morality. You're too fricking dumb to realize that no one gives a shite about what he was legally obligated to do.

Once again, you are trying to let the guy off on a technicality. You are a sick frick.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 10:56 am
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:59 am to
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I am defending his legality not his morality. I am sorry you can not separate the two.

Nobody is advocating digging him up and throwing his corpse in prison. Everyone is just saying what a piece of shite he is for this whole thing. This thread is all about morality, not legality, so I'm not sure why you're arguing a point that isn't on the table
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:02 am to
Actually the accusations in this thread are both legal and moral.

Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:04 am to
I am not letting anyone off a hook.

Where is your outrage for the AD, President, Campus Police, McQueary, and McQueary father?


You act like it was just Paterno.

You are just wanting to smear one man when the blame is around a bunch of people.

Why aren't you screaming at McQueary who actually saw a criminal offense happen and did nothing but report it to Paterno 24 hours later and after speaking to his father, who then reported it to a superior.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:05 am
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:06 am to
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He was banging these boys
jesus, dude.
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
4045 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Actually the accusations in this thread are both legal and moral.


What was the legal accusation made in this thread?
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:07 am to
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Why aren't you screaming at McQueary who actually saw a criminal offense happen and did nothing but report it to Paterno 24 hours later and after speaking to his father, who then reported it to a superior.



Because this thread is about Paterno. Plenty of people were outraged over McQueary and the Pres/AS when everything first broke. There's no new info coming out about those people.

Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:07 am to
Original posts and throughout the thread.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78304 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Where is your outrage for the AD, President, Campus Police, and McQueary?


It's being expressed in the threads about those people.

quote:

You act like it was just Paterno.


No, I don't. I'm posting about Paterno in this thread because this thread is specifically about when Paterno found out. Once again, you can't grasp simple concepts.

If the news that came out was the McQuery witnessed something 4 years before he said he did and never told anyone, I'd be posting about him.

I even mentioned the open joke that it was in State College. But I guess you missed that part. When the discussion is about Joe Paterno, it's not necessary to bring other people's failings into it. And that a whole shite load of people failed these kids doesn't make Joe any less of a piece of shite. The power he held within the community makes him more of one though.
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
4045 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:10 am to
You started talking about legality at the top of page 2. I'm asking what specific legal accusations were made in this thread before that point. I don't see any, it's all about what a POS he is, which is morality
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:25 am to
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No. The claim was made by a victim during a deposition while under oath.
JoePa's own attorney implied he knew. He went with the "he told his superiors" defense.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:28 am to
sad
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:30 am to
The University should have the football program permanently removed.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:35 am to
I don't think the legality is the real issue here man. The morality and the ethics are far more important.

Paterno is a horrible human being that put a legacy in coaching a sport over the well being of human children. Those children are probably scarred for life and have to live with being sexually violated because some old dude wanted to protect his legacy.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:36 am
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
3027 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:44 am to
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sms151t


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You are just wanting to smear one man when the blame is around a bunch of people.



So you are excusing JoePa! STFU
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