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re: JoePa knew about Sandusky in 1976

Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Legally he is without fault. Morally no he is not.

Same stance I have taken since the facts came out


Newsflash:

Joe Paterno is dead and can't face any litigation and this is a public forum, not a courtroom.

What is your endgame with this nonsense?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91436 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:16 pm to
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What is your endgame with this nonsense?
For everyone to admit that Paterno was incapable of any more action that would have saved kids from being molested.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:21 pm to
You should really just give this up. Nobody is in your corner and you are making yourself look more and more foolish with each passing post.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91436 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:27 pm to
He has TJgator, and a dude who has been around Paterno a few times.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:41 pm to
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a dude who has been around Paterno a few times.




so was sandusky.

maybe this "guy" is a pedo too?

We know Paterno is great friends with them.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17739 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:07 pm to
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He has TJgator, and a dude who has been around Paterno a few times.

I'm sure Zamoro is also still lurking in banland wishing he could re-post links "proving" Joe Pa was innocent and screwed over by a media witch hunt.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:24 pm to
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disagree, the person committing the crime is always worse in every way than someone who just doesn't say anything about it. I think this attitude stems from a bit of overzealous desire to demonize the more famous individual. Had JoePa been the actual rapist and Sandudky the one who said nothing nobody would be making this argument.
who gives a shite who's worse?? Both go to hell on the same boat
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38808 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:28 pm to
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The Athletic Director and the Vice President or President granted it not the Head Coach. I am sure you knew that though.




If the Sainted Joe Pa had fired the man's arse and reported him the FIRST time he caught him diddling with children, he never could have been GRANTED tenure by the AD and VP or Prez.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9918 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:33 pm to
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For everyone to admit that Paterno was incapable of any more action that would have saved kids from being molested.



Having worked for 7 years in PA at Victim Services Center of Montgomery County, PA I can say that the mandated reporting laws basically agree with your statement.

Our Policy was only supervisors could call Child line and speak with the Office of Children and Youth (the same place that referred kids to 2nd Mile). Other than filing that report, which I imagine he wasn't allowed that's why he went to his Supervisors.

But, as I said last night, read the Clemente Report. McQueery was not specific in what he reported to JoePa and basically had some concern.

With "Pillar of the Community" offenders, sexual abuse probably didn't even register in their mind.

Why would JoePa allow Sandusky to do it and cover it up? He hasn't been implicated as joining in, so why would he allow if he knew what was going on?

JoePa had no clue.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:37 pm to
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Why would JoePa allow Sandusky to do it and cover it up? He hasn't been implicated as joining in, so why would he allow if he knew what was going on?

JoePa had no clue



Oh, ok. Well that settles that.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91436 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:40 pm to
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JoePa had no clue.
Isn't this absolutely false?
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9918 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:43 pm to
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Isn't this absolutely false?


Clemente Report
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:45 pm to
A Paterno family-funded investigative report posted on Paterno.com

Seems legit
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9918 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:50 pm to
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A Paterno family-funded investigative report posted on Paterno.com

Seems legit


Have you read it? I thought the same way you did until I read it.

Former FBI profiler and sexual abuse victim himself did an excellent investigation and wrote one of the most important documents when it comes to understanding Child Sexual Abuse.

Every time I give a speech I recommend everyone read it. Regardless of how you feel about Joe Paterno, Penn State, or my dumbass on Tigerdroppings. And if you have kids...it's a must read.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:53 pm to
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Have you read it?

Yes. Basically all it does is say there is a shortage of direct evidence of Paterno covering things up or being directly involved in improprieties. There is still a wealth of circumstantial evidence to the contrary, though. Anyone with any cursory knowledge of Penn State and how things were/are run there knows JoePa had his finger in everything
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40330 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:57 pm to
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. Anyone with any cursory knowledge of Penn State and how things were/are run there knows JoePa had his finger in everything



It's the same shite with saban and bo Davis. Forever you tell me how amazing X head coach is and how he runs everything exactly as it should be. Then when something fricks up its just some underling that X coach couldn't have known about.


You cannot have it both ways.

Joe pa knew just like the Catholic Church knew. It's better to hide it and hope for the best, in their mind.
This post was edited on 5/7/16 at 12:01 am
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9918 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 12:12 am to
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Yes. Basically all it does is say there is a shortage of direct evidence of Paterno covering things up or being directly involved in improprieties.


And that he didn't know Joe Paterno, had never met Joe Paterno, and he told the Paterno family if it came out looking bad for Paterno he was going to write his report honestly.

I've talked to Jim Clemente on the phone and I can honestly say, when it comes to child sexual abuse, he is one of the smartest people I have ever talked to about the subject.

I was in agreement with everyone who was calling Ped-State and cheered the removal of JoePa's statue. I read the Clemente Report because I felt obligated to form an educated opinion on the subject.

It helped me understand the dynamics of sexual abuse better.

If evidence comes out that JoePa was a pedophile, I'll re-evaluate how I feel about him knowing.

But every parent of a sexual abuse victim who is clueless to their child's abuse is way closer to their own child than JoePa was to Sandusky's victims. How could he have known?

Especially with no one coming out and saying, "Jerry was f-in a kid in the shower."

Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140859 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 12:20 am to
You do much with the RAINN stuff? They have had us do stuff with them a lot lately.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 12:22 am to
You still don't seem to grasp what I'm saying. Even assuming the report is 100% unbiased and perfectly executed, its findings do little more than just cast some doubt on the Freeh report's infallibility. It indicates there is a lack of direct evidence of JoePa's involvement, thus raising reasonable doubts. Which would be great for him in a criminal investigation. But my brain isn't a criminal investigation and this isn't about legality to me. The circumstantial evidence is more than enough to show me that JoePa knew some despicable things were going on and did the absolute bare minimum he had to do save his own arse. From there the failure just went up the ladder. Joe was a man of great power and had he done just a little bit more and thought about someone or something other than himself and Penn State football, dozens of kids lives wouldn't have been irreparably harmed.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140859 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 12:27 am to
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lsu2006



I'm going to ask you a question of you are willing to have a legitimate conversation about this topic (minus Paterno or Penn St)
This post was edited on 5/7/16 at 12:28 am
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