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re: JoePa knew about Sandusky in 1976

Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:15 am to
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:15 am to
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You are wrong. Murder is a lot less horrid. The person once dead has there suffering end. Child rape victims experience psychological pain for the rest of there lives.


If you wrote this and don't realize how objectively incorrect it is on every conceivable level, then I don't know that I'm gonna be able to put you on the right path.

Life is pain, holmes. It's less than pleasant. And yet the lengths we'll go to stay alive.

To say that being dead is better than being alive with some scars to overcome is not just silly, it's just, again, objectively indefensible. It's 0% right.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:17 am to
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You've been lied to. A lot.



Do tell. Are you another "rape is worth than death" guy?


Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:17 am to
Holy shite.
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
2235 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:37 am to
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No they don't! Some might. I've never met a rape victim or a sexual abuse victim who wish they would have gotten murdered.

I have met family and friends of victims who may have thought that.

But nothing could be further from the truth.

Scarred for Life is a myth. I have met people scarred for life, but their support system was shite.



Some may be able to overcome and I am very glad for them.

However there are very many that NEVER are able to live that down. It ruins that person for life.

Scarred for life is not a myth and I pray that you never have to go through that or have to know a family member go through something like that. It leaves a damn big scar that definitely isn't a myth even through tremendous support.

Some nightmares you can't wake up from and the world isn't all fairy tales no matter how much you want to believe it is.

I'd say more but I don't feel like getting banned today.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:52 am to
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However there are very many that NEVER are able to live that down. It ruins that person for life.


Being ruined is better than being dead.

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Scarred for life is not a myth and I pray that you never have to go through that or have to know a family member go through something like that. It leaves a damn big scar that definitely isn't a myth even through tremendous support.


Scarred > not alive

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Some nightmares you can't wake up from and the world isn't all fairy tales no matter how much you want to believe it is.


A life that is less than a fairy tale is still a life

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'd say more but I don't feel like getting banned today.


Right, because your points are so compelling.
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
2235 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:02 am to
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Being ruined is better than being dead.


For some the horror of what has happens haunts them for the rest of their lives, it can even make death seem better than living (which is why some victims commit suicide, turn to drugs, have severe depression)

quote:

Scarred > not alive



Except you live your life wishing you were dead (and some try to commit suicide, some do) because everywhere you go you can never shake the feeling that it will happen again. You don't want to get close to anyone because you are scared. You feel ashamed even though you know you have nothing to be ashamed about.

quote:

A life that is less than a fairy tale is still a life


A life that is a nightmare is not much of a life. The victim is forced to live that nightmare that in many ways can feel like a prison.

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Right, because your points are so compelling.



It is a quite personal subject for me and I will leave it at that. But I can assure you that for the victim it can feel like a life that is not worth living and death can at times seem like a better option.

It also is a nightmare that never goes away, not 5 years later, not DECADES later, NEVER.

All I will say is that you beliefs are very ignorant and victims of rape, and in particular child sexual abuse, never get over the crimes that were done against their will.

Not saying that some don't get over it but many never do no matter how much support they receive.

Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:18 am to
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For some the horror of what has happens haunts them for the rest of their lives, it can even make death seem better than living (which is why some victims commit suicide, turn to drugs, have severe depression)


No, because when you are alive you always have the option of not being alive. When you are dead, you do not have the option of trying out the other side for a while. Simple stuff.

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Except you live your life wishing you were dead (and some try to commit suicide, some do) because everywhere you go you can never shake the feeling that it will happen again. You don't want to get close to anyone because you are scared. You feel ashamed even though you know you have nothing to be ashamed about.


Yeah, I wish I were taller. Life sucks, then you die.



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A life that is a nightmare is not much of a life. The victim is forced to live that nightmare that in many ways can feel like a prison.


We're all in our prisons at some level. There's no escaping our own brains. yet, still better than being dead because you at least have that option.

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All I will say is that you beliefs are very ignorant and victims of rape, and in particular child sexual abuse, never get over the crimes that were done against their will.



No, they are very realistic, and completely correct. Does it suck to get raped? Sure. Is it way better than lengthy incarceration or death. All day err day.

quote:

t is a quite personal subject for me and I will leave it at that. But I can assure you that for the victim it can feel like a life that is not worth living and death can at times seem like a better option.

It also is a nightmare that never goes away, not 5 years later, not DECADES later, NEVER.

All I will say is that you beliefs are very ignorant and victims of rape, and in particular child sexual abuse, never get over the crimes that were done against their will.

Not saying that some don't get over it but many never do no matter how much support they receive.


I believe in the idea of depressioin. It's just better than being dead and to argue otherwise is silly .
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27780 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:59 am to
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I can just hear the rhythmic slapping.


I sort of feel bad for that ginger QB coach. His only correct course of action in retrospect would have been to rush across that shower and try or succeed in beating Sandusky to death. That would have got more than campus police involved.

He was a 28 year old GA at Penn State. One hell of a GA job. I assume no kids. Now that I have a son I believe I would have beat his arse. But at 28? I can see doing what he did. Which was call coaches, supervisor, and campus police/security. Everyone above that coaches head who showed up afterward, and met in that locker room, and did not arrest or get city/state police involved acted criminally. The uselessness in that locker room meeting had to be comically pathetic.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14835 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 6:09 am to
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I pray that you never have to go through that




quote:

JodyPlauche





Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 6:40 am to
meh. Not buying it, and it's pretty lame to pile on a dead guy

Paterno is still the GOAT
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 6:41 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18684 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 6:51 am to
He told his superiors (allegedly and as if he really had "superiors"), that was enough we're told by the JoPa's.

Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 6:56 am to
He's supposed to go to the police
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:02 am to
quote:

He's supposed to go to the police



Actually I don't believe he is.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:03 am to
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meh. Not buying it, and it's pretty lame to pile on a dead guy

Paterno is still the GOAT


You are a disgusting human being. Paterno is the GOAT pedophile enabler.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:08 am to
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Actually I don't believe he is.

He may have met his legal obligation, but Joe Pa never questioned Sandusky still being around? Still being with children. Joe Pa knew and didn't care about anything other than his reputation and legacy.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91434 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:11 am to
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Actually I don't believe he is.

Why do you feel this way?
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:18 am to
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Why do you feel this way?


I haven't read the thread, but I am sure it has been discussed in the previous 9 pages.

I've been around Paterno more than a handful of times and I can say that he and his family are/were good people. Just my opinion, and I no have no expectation of changing the opinions of those who disagree.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 7:19 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91434 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:28 am to
Oh. Oh lord

I'm sure Sandusky was a friendly person as well. I'm pretty sure I'm familiar with your postings. You're smart enough to realize that enjoying someone's company has nothing to do with whether they do bad things or not.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:33 am to
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Actually I don't believe he is.


Legally? No.

Morally? Yes.

Hope he rots in hell.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27761 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 7:36 am to
F' Papedio and PSU...it's as if ole Joe lathered those kids up in the shower himself.
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