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re: Joe Paterno will retire at the end of the season per AP
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:17 am to Sidewinder
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:17 am to Sidewinder
Mauti played for the Saints.
What is he "rallying support" over exactly?
What is he "rallying support" over exactly?
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:17 am to Spawn
quote:Yes. And not really funny even if it weren't.
Too Soon?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:17 am to Philosoraptor
they knew SOMETHING happened. something that involved a grown man and young boys in the shower. they continued to let him be around the children for years, even after additional reports. am i missing something here? how can anyone defend joe p on this?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:18 am to Grabo
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and he was told what ? That Sandusky was just having an innocent shower with a ten year old boy ? That Mike McQueary lied to him about seeing the rape ?
Who knows? The point is he told the head of campus police there was a report made by McQueary of inappropriate sexual conduct with a minor by Sandusky. Why does the head of campus police not bring in outside help for something like this?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:19 am to Maximus
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They are acting like he was some wide eyed 19 year old baby. A 28 year old sees a 59 year old doing that and his reaction is run away and call daddy
Exactly. If it would have been an 18 year old freshmen who helped out in the film room, it's a little different (even then most would call the police I'd hope). But a 28 year old? That's way past the time to call daddy to help you decide right and wrong.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:20 am to Nittany Lion
quote:Shultz was in an administrative position over the Campus PD, he didn't head the PD. He wasn't an law enforcement officer and, IMO, reporting to him is not akin to reporting it to police.
Fourth, the presentment says Schultz "oversaw the university police as part of his position," although "he never reported the 2002 incident to the University Police or other police agency."
Let's stop there to consider enraged demands that Paterno should have contacted "the police" about the allegation. He did contact police. Schultz headed the campus police force, which has as much authority as any other police force.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:20 am to Nittany Lion
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Fourth, the presentment says Schultz "oversaw the university police as part of his position," although "he never reported the 2002 incident to the University Police or other police agency."
Let's stop there to consider enraged demands that Paterno should have contacted "the police" about the allegation. He did contact police. Schultz headed the campus police force, which has as much authority as any other police force.
Is that supposed to convince anyone of anything? First of all, it's wrong on the facts. The second paragraph contradicts the first. "He did contact police" - no he didn't, he contacted an administrator who "never reported the 2002 incident to the University Police..."
Even if it wasn't wrong on the facts, it wouldn't make an ounce of difference morally to what JoePa didn't do.
Again, JoePa is a sham. So is PSU if they let him coach out this season.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:22 am to uway
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Again, JoePa is a sham. So is PSU if they let him coach out this season.
Exactly!
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 10:26 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:23 am to Nittany Lion
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Why does the head of campus police not bring in outside help for something like this?
He wasn't a policeman himself, so stop implying that. But to answer your question, he didn't bring in outside help, b/c just like everybody else involved at PSU, HE WAS COVERING IT UP. There's not much gray area here.
that's another thing. It would have been one thing if they covered it up b/c it was JoePa's long-term friend but then made sure nothing like that happened again somehow. That still would have been terribly wrong, but what they did instead is almost inconceivably wrong.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 10:26 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:24 am to uway
quote:
First of all, it's wrong on the facts
Contacting the head of campus police isn't contacting the police? He was still in charge of the entire campus police force.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:24 am to Nittany Lion
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Who knows? The point is he told the head of campus police there was a report made by McQueary of inappropriate sexual conduct with a minor by Sandusky. Why does the head of campus police not bring in outside help for something like this?
Wow. Are PSU fans that desperate and stupid? Schultz was NOT the head of the Police. Their office came under his position in the organizational structure, but he was a money guy, not a legal police guy.
Some of you are so desperate to try and protect that POS Paterno that you'll delude yourselves into believing anything.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 10:25 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:25 am to Geaux2002
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Their office came under his position in the organizational structure, but he was a money guy, not a legal police guy.
He doesn't have to be a legal police guy to call up a department he had control over and say "investigate immediately." That was quoted right out of an article...not my words that he was in charge of campus police.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 10:26 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:25 am to Geaux2002
quote:
Some of you are so desperate to try and protect that POS Paterno that you'll delude yourselves into believing anything.
This. That PSU poster sounds like a complete retard.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:26 am to uway
quote:
Who knows?
Paterno knows that McQueary told him that he saw Sandusky in the shower with a ten year old boy.
So either he thinks McQueary lied to him, which led to Paterno giving him a full time job on his coaching staff.
or
He looked the other way knowing that Sandusky had been in the shower with a ten year old boy. He continued to look the other way for years as Sandusky worked with children and brought them onto campus.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:27 am to LSU0358
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But a 28 year old? That's way past the time to call daddy to help you decide right and wrong.
I'm curious to know what he told Paterno.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:27 am to Nittany Lion
JoePa probably didnt even know that some VP of Finance oversaw the campus police. He "reported" this to his superiors in name who we all know were his inferiors. I'm sure they proceeded as Joe told them to.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:28 am to Nittany Lion
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He doesn't have to be a legal police guy to call up a department he had control over and say "investigate immediately." That was quoted right out of an article...not my words that he was in charge of campus police
And it's straight from PSU propaganda to cover Joe right now.
Keep trying to delude yourself. If he was going to report it, he should've reported it to the actual police chief, not some guy that supervises funding for several university departments and it just happens to include the campus PD.
Joe Pa is a pathetic excuse for a human being and can rot in hell with his other coverup buddies while these kids have to spend the rest of their lives scarred by this shite.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:29 am to Grabo
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Paterno knows that McQueary told him that he saw Sandusky in the shower with a ten year old boy.
And this was only a few years after Sandusky admitted to taking showers with little boys in the Penn State showers. So it isn't like it would be a shock to hear that the pedo was back to his old ways
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:30 am to TigerintheNO
quote:There is no way in hell that he didn't tell him everything. Still, even to what Joe admitted he told him is enough. It also makes Joe look worse because he clearly lied to the grand jury to try to minimize his own involvement and culpability. A complete coward.
I'm curious to know what he told Paterno.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:32 am to Nittany Lion
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That was quoted right out of an article.
The same article that said that Schultz never contacted university police. If he WAS university police, that doesn't make sense. If he simply oversaw them administratively, it makes sense and means that JoePa in fact did not contact law enforcement personnel.
This would be like a really powerful citizen that had extreme influence over local politics contacting the mayor of his town (instead of the people who actually investigate crimes and arrest people) with news of a heinous crime and then washing his hands of it. He was putting all the onus on Schultz.
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