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re: Joe Paterno will retire at the end of the season per AP

Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Wait ... what? Where is the source for this?


Sandusky was the heir apparent to Paterno. In 1998 he was questioned about and admitted to showering with a minor (minor like a 10 year old). The next year the "heir apparent" retired from Penn State but was still granted the keys to the kingdom.

They all knew about it and still let the POS use university facilities for his "foundation". You know what happened in 2002.

They should all burn in hell.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Its been all over the news. the reason Sandusky retired unexpectedly in the first place was the incident of him molesting another kid and the police investigation that went nowhere.


Is that speculation, or did someone come forth and say so. I'm not saying I doubt it (I actually believe that's probably what happened) just wonder if it was confirmed.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288182 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Is that speculation, or did someone come forth and say so



it is speculation.

but a fact in Tiger Ryno's mind, along with 2 of his other 4 points that were supposed to be "facts".
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:37 pm to
He admitted to showering with a minor in 1998. That's a fact.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18866 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:37 pm to
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why dont they? This took place in their backyard. Just saying. I keep hearing people say this. One person earlier on TV was talking about their age, like they are middle school students. These are college student; grown men and women who are old enough to think for themselves.
It is too close to home for them to be objective. When your HFC has a statute, walks to work through the school from his modest ranch house just off campus, and the institution and the program are synonymous with his name, they are just as tone-deaf to the realities as the coaches, admins, and law enforcement authorities who knew of this and did nothing about it.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Lester Earl


quote:

he should be removed or step down.


but should be allowed to coach one more game? makes no fricking sense.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107480 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:38 pm to
Lester he admitted to a victim's mother that he showered with her kid in 1998. he was over heard by a detective admitting it. saying "I was wrong...I would like forgiveness but I know I won't get it from you...I wish I were dead"


shortly after one of the best D coordinators in the nation abruptly retires.

FACT enough for me.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18866 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Sandusky was the heir apparent to Paterno. In 1998 he was questioned about and admitted to showering with a minor (minor like a 10 year old). The next year the "heir apparent" retired from Penn State but was still granted the keys to the kingdom.

They all knew about it and still let the POS use university facilities for his "foundation". You know what happened in 2002.

They should all burn in hell.
Sounds like a feasible inference, but I still don't see anything definite reported on it.

Having said that, it would just confirm my suspicions that Sandusky's behavior was an open secret at PSU.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12540 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:41 pm to
VA Buckeye why isn't Paterno being drug through the coals like Jim Tressel was? Because Jo Pa is this iconic figure and he's 84 yrs old. frick that lead his arse out in hand cuff as well
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:43 pm to
FWIW- This Shultz asshat admitted to knowing about the 1998 incident. That, combined with the fact that Shultz had administrative authority over the Campus PD, combined with the fact that the AD called him upon learning of the 2002 incident, looks really, really, really bad.

It also makes it hard to believe that the others didn't know what was going on.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:44 pm to
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VA Buckeye why isn't Paterno being drug through the coals like Jim Tressel was? Because Jo Pa is this iconic figure and he's 84 yrs old.


This is what bothers me. Its complete bullshite.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Sounds like a feasible inference, but I still don't see anything definite reported on it.

Having said that, it would just confirm my suspicions that Sandusky's behavior was an open secret at PSU.


Yeah, the Detective that recorded Sandusky saying those things to the mother was a University Detective. And Joe Pa and the AD didn't know about what was on those recordings, but Sandusky all of a sudden retires the next year? Please, spare me. They all knew, and those that think they didn't are crazy.
Posted by Philosoraptor
Member since Oct 2010
4523 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:48 pm to
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why isn't Paterno being drug through the coals like Jim Tressel was?


Actually, he is. It's just the delusional PSU fans that are trying to protect him.

frick... I used to root for PSU and thought Joe Pa should retire whenever he wanted to.

But after this bullshite, I want that fricker out of there ASAP.

And I really hope they get the death penalty somehow. But of course they won't because of the "prestige" and history.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:49 pm to
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Yeah, the Detective that recorded Sandusky saying those things to the mother was a University Detective. And Joe Pa and the AD didn't know about what was on those recordings, but Sandusky all of a sudden retires the next year? Please, spare me. They all knew, and those that think they didn't are crazy.


And that's the turning point of everything. That's what makes the cover up of the 2002 incident so obviously intentional and appalling.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107480 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:50 pm to
Trevor Matich is bringing the Pain:

*If Joe knew and didn't do enough he is just as responsible for the continued rapes as Sandusky is

*Joe's legacy is trashed. Nobody should mention his 400 wins, champtionships, graduation rates, etc... The scandal is what will define him.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:52 pm to
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And that's the turning point of everything. That's what makes the cover up of the 2002 incident so obviously intentional and appalling.


Yep. As new things come out it wouldn't surprise me that 1998 wasn't the first time they were alerted to this. In '98, the guy had already been there over 20 years with his youth program going, I bet someone saw something before 1998.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 1:54 pm
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30393 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:53 pm to
if a scandal this big doesn't call for the death penalty i don't see what else could
Posted by Nittany Lion
Pennsylvania
Member since Oct 2005
3612 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Wait ... what? Where is the source for this?


There is no source for this. 1998 was investigated by authorities and the DA dropped the case.
Posted by songofthesword
lexington, ky
Member since Sep 2011
3582 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:54 pm to
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And I really hope they get the death penalty somehow. But of course they won't because of the "prestige" and history.
figuratively and for Sandusky literally.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88577 posts
Posted on 11/9/11 at 1:55 pm to
There are 3 Penn State grads where I work 1 of them being a sport psychologist and they all think Joe Pa did NOTHING wrong and it's bullshite that he is gonna retire. WTF is wrong with these people?
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