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re: Joe Paterno dead at 85
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:00 pm to Hat Tricks
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:00 pm to Hat Tricks
JoePa's hypocrisy and sanctimony manifested itself long before the 2002 shower episode.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:11 pm to Hat Tricks
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Then are you mildly retarded?
I must be
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:56 pm to TigerPhan27
correct .. and I agree with you .. just makes your comment in here interesting .. that's all ..
Posted on 1/22/12 at 2:57 pm to jacks40
It's always funny when espn gives us random twitter reactions....just now we got RIPs from jimmy Johnson, Mario chalmers, and Michael Irving.
Glad I got Mario's take on this...thanks twitter!
Glad I got Mario's take on this...thanks twitter!
Posted on 1/22/12 at 3:00 pm to emmanuellewis
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He's a coward, good riddance old man
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Honestly, it is somewhat amazing to me how everyone "knows" Paterno didn't do more because he wanted to win more football games. Why did he report it at all? Along with many people, I think he did not do enough and deserved to lose his job. I also think that it is pretty difficult to know his motives (or others motives who had knowledge of Sandusky's acts). It would be great if everyone took all of the appropriate actions when they saw evidence of wrong doing, but that doesn't happen in a lot of cases. It would also be great if everyone held themselves to the same standard they seem to hold other people, but unfortunately that doesnt happen either.
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And I also want to simply point out the irony of you having Kobe Bryant as an avatar while making the quoted statement. Paterno never paid a settlement for sexually assaulting someone. While you may "know" Kobe Bryant is completely innocent and "know" that Paterno participated in a coverup while having extensive knowledge of Sandusky's action, I think there are a lot of unanswered questions in both cases.
There are two sides to every story. And some of you people obviously have not heard of this fact. This is a polarizing situation because of the parties affected. So I will reserve my judgement until there is a trial.
But it is tragic in every possible way. I doubt that the lives of most people on here have been so admired as Joe Paterno.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 3:16 pm to LSU Beach Lover
quote:Paterno has admitted he should have done more,, what other side do I need to hear?
There are two sides to every story. And some of you people obviously have not heard of this fact.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 3:17 pm to LSU Beach Lover
There's actually 3 sides to every story -- her side .. his side .. and the truth ...
Posted on 1/22/12 at 4:34 pm to ThaKaptin
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Bama fans have always respected Joe Pa very much because of his friendship with Coach Bryant and the mutual respect they had for each other. It's not surprising or interesting at all that Bama fans would knight for him.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 4:43 pm to acgeaux129
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Essentially killing this old man is another reasoon Sandusky shott rot in jail and then hell.
accidentally responded to myself. LSU alum wannabe produced this gem.
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 1/22/12 at 5:06 pm to Toddy
Y'all are all huge pricks. RIP Joe Pa your legacy will never die.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 5:44 pm to Carson123987
I don't know what everyone is on Joe Paterno for not doing enough?
Why isn't any blame being put on the higher ups who he reported too?
It's all Joe Paterno's fault I suppose, not the fault of the assistant coach who actually saw the act, or the higher ups who decided to keep it under wraps.
It's all Joe's fault because he didn't do enough......wow
Why isn't any blame being put on the higher ups who he reported too?
It's all Joe Paterno's fault I suppose, not the fault of the assistant coach who actually saw the act, or the higher ups who decided to keep it under wraps.
It's all Joe's fault because he didn't do enough......wow
Posted on 1/22/12 at 5:59 pm to TigerTy
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I don't know what everyone is on Joe Paterno for not doing enough?
Why isn't any blame being put on the higher ups who he reported too?
It's all Joe Paterno's fault I suppose, not the fault of the assistant coach who actually saw the act, or the higher ups who decided to keep it under wraps.
It's all Joe's fault because he didn't do enough......wow
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:19 pm to Hat Tricks
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There is plenty of blame to go around.
I understand that, but people are going for Joe Paterno's head like he was the only who knew about this disaster.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:31 pm to TigerTy
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I understand that, but people are going for Joe Paterno's head like he was the only who knew about this disaster.
He's the one who has been made a hero all day on tv.
When they start glorifying the other people on tv, they will get blasted too.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:32 pm to TigerTy
it is paterno's fault for allowing Sandusky continued, unsupervised access to penn state football facilities -- i.e. the locker room, afterwards .. don't you think ?
Posted on 1/22/12 at 6:37 pm to TigahRag
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TigahRag
I really don't understand how some of these people can't understand the significance of Joe Pa's choices.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:00 pm to Toddy
Don't care.
Man's life and 'legend' is a complete wash and deservedly so.
The handful of moments in his long life when he had the opportunity to take a stance for what is good and just in this world he took the coward's way out to protect those around him. When he could of taken the difficult road, protected the innocent, and in time when the smoke cleared been a hero the right way.
In my world that does not define a man much less a 'Legend'
call me biased, I don't care
Man's life and 'legend' is a complete wash and deservedly so.
The handful of moments in his long life when he had the opportunity to take a stance for what is good and just in this world he took the coward's way out to protect those around him. When he could of taken the difficult road, protected the innocent, and in time when the smoke cleared been a hero the right way.
In my world that does not define a man much less a 'Legend'
call me biased, I don't care
Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:18 pm to Klark Kent
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"It is not enough in a situation of trust in the commonwealth, that a man means well to his country; it is not enough that in his single person he never did an evil act, but always voted according to his conscience, and even harangued against every design which he apprehended to be prejudicial to the interests of his country. This innoxious and ineffectual character, that seems formed upon a plan of apology and disculpation, falls miserably short of the mark of public duty. That duty demands and requires that what is right should not only be made known, but made prevalent; that what is evil should not only be detected, but defeated. When the public man omits to put himself in a situation of doing his duty with effect it is an omission that frustrates the purposes of his trust almost as much as if he had formally betrayed it. It is surely no very rational account of a man's life, that he has always acted right but has taken special care to act in such a manner that his endeavours could not possibly be productive of any consequence."
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
Posted on 1/22/12 at 7:20 pm to TigahRag
Just read this entire thread.
Y'all are pricks for celebrating a human being's death. I will never celebrate anybody's death ever. It should alway be approached soberly and with respect for all the people involved in the death like family members and beloved friends.
Joe Pa made a terrible mistake that he should have never been in the position of making it if he would have just retired earlier in the 90's. It's a terrible mistake that ended in misery for everyone involved and Penn State as a whole.
But I do still value 85 years of life. He did a lot for college football and an insurmountable amount of good for Penn State and helped advanced a lot of young people's lives over several decades. He was Mr. College Football and my dad admired him growing up as well my grandfather. When you think about how many people he has helped over his career and combine all their lifetimes, That's almost two thousand years, if not more, worth of good. Who knows what those individuals will end up contributing to our society. I can imagine it's nothing but good things coming from them. Leading a productive and happy life is more than enough for them to show the impact Joe Paterno made.
The problem though is that this mistake affected the lives of several boys and men in a way I don't even want to think about. For one individual, it's an entire lifetime of bad memories. When you combine all of the lives of sandusky's victims, that is a mistake that will be felt for a good few hundred years. Who knows what they will end up doing. People that molest usually wind up molesting other people. I hope they can recover from this and lead productive lives.
So with all that said, I say that he was a great man, great coach, who just made a few terrible mistakes that will taint his legacy for a very long time. And it should. You just don't allow something like this to happen for a long time. But we stil should remember the great things he's done and put it with the bad and you have a great man that made a terrible mistake.
RIP Joe Paterno.
My thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends.
Y'all are pricks for celebrating a human being's death. I will never celebrate anybody's death ever. It should alway be approached soberly and with respect for all the people involved in the death like family members and beloved friends.
Joe Pa made a terrible mistake that he should have never been in the position of making it if he would have just retired earlier in the 90's. It's a terrible mistake that ended in misery for everyone involved and Penn State as a whole.
But I do still value 85 years of life. He did a lot for college football and an insurmountable amount of good for Penn State and helped advanced a lot of young people's lives over several decades. He was Mr. College Football and my dad admired him growing up as well my grandfather. When you think about how many people he has helped over his career and combine all their lifetimes, That's almost two thousand years, if not more, worth of good. Who knows what those individuals will end up contributing to our society. I can imagine it's nothing but good things coming from them. Leading a productive and happy life is more than enough for them to show the impact Joe Paterno made.
The problem though is that this mistake affected the lives of several boys and men in a way I don't even want to think about. For one individual, it's an entire lifetime of bad memories. When you combine all of the lives of sandusky's victims, that is a mistake that will be felt for a good few hundred years. Who knows what they will end up doing. People that molest usually wind up molesting other people. I hope they can recover from this and lead productive lives.
So with all that said, I say that he was a great man, great coach, who just made a few terrible mistakes that will taint his legacy for a very long time. And it should. You just don't allow something like this to happen for a long time. But we stil should remember the great things he's done and put it with the bad and you have a great man that made a terrible mistake.
RIP Joe Paterno.
My thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends.
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 7:41 pm
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