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re: Joe Mixon video released
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:59 pm to Warrior Poet
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:59 pm to Warrior Poet
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and yet this incident happened in a state with normal laws
Battery is a crime under Oklahoma law and can be either a misdemeanor or a felony.
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:01 pm to buckeye_vol
Which she committed first.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:02 pm to Warrior Poet
Dammit, Poet. Ya don' fudged up the thread.
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:06 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Exactly!!!
I don't agree with what he did personally but, I could make a legal argument that justifies his actions.
I don't agree with what he did personally but, I could make a legal argument that justifies his actions.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:06 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
quote:And frankly, it seems problematic in situations like this if a crime is disregarded because a more egregious crime is committed in response. Shouldn't the law be applied to all parties.
Which she committed first.
Like if I rear-end somebody, but then the otj the driver assaults me in rage, can they not issue a traffic violation for the crash?
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:09 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
I'm too tired and TD is not billable hours! Lol
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:12 pm to buckeye_vol
Your hypothetical only gave one crime. An accidental rear-ending is not a crime and, therefore does not have an affirmative defense.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:14 pm to ReauxlTide222
Yes, it is an intentional tort and a crime.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:21 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:
This really makes no difference. Video shows guy following them inside and inserting himself in their business
Yep. He followed them inside and decided to escalate the situation. He decided to keep it real and needs to suffer the consequences.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:25 pm to Manlaw35
I think she motioned him in
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:28 pm to Manlaw35
None of that is a crime of which is a crime.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:37 pm to Manlaw35
quote:He shouldn't have done that.
Yep. He followed them inside and decided to escalate the situation
quote:What does this mean?
He decided to keep it real
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:38 pm to castorinho
He deserves the worst thing possible to happen to him.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:41 pm to castorinho
My first thought, if you defend this POS I hope you die painfully.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:47 pm to lsuhunt555
quote:Hard to defend him. But at least in terms of terribleness:
My first thought, if you defend this POS I hope you die painfully.
death > getting punched > irrationally defending the puncher
Seems to be a weird thing to hope for in this case. Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:52 pm to buckeye_vol
I didn't say I hope that person dies, I just hope that when it happens...it's painful. Pay attention.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 12:06 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
it seems problematic in situations like this if a crime is disregarded because a more egregious crime is committed in response
I agree with that. The difference in severity is pretty large though. His actions put her life in some danger. Hers were essentially annoying or rude.
Generally this kind of thing is harder for us to morally think through in an abstract sense. With a video like this almost all sympathy goes to the woman who was punched because the visual of her going down is so shocking and you feel concern for her welfare.
I suspect part of that is our innate sensitivity for the endangerment of women. If it were a frail man who first laid hands on a larger man (and was then laid flat) then I think many men and some women would argue he should have expected a possibility of exactly that response (essentially that he should have known better and was responsible for his outcome at some level).
But the difference in potential harm a large man faces when slapped by a frail man or a medium-sized woman is negligible - this shows our feelings may be gender based tendencies for sympathy for women rather than rational assessments of potential harm or impartial moral judgments.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 12:36 am to molsusports
It's all proportional. He over reacted disproportionally. It's a shame he isn't in jail. Obviously, he has self control issues and is probably a ticking time bomb.
If those of you defending him feel his response was warranted, I hope you'll be fine the next time you bump into someone while walking and he turns around and shoots you dead. Hey, you initiated contact first right?
If those of you defending him feel his response was warranted, I hope you'll be fine the next time you bump into someone while walking and he turns around and shoots you dead. Hey, you initiated contact first right?
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:26 am to castorinho
Despicable.
Too bad it wasn't 100 years ago.
Too bad it wasn't 100 years ago.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:35 am to alabamabuckeye
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Look, hitting women is fricked up, and his life wasn't at risk, but it's kind of hard to expect someone to get slapped in the face/neck and not do anything.
You're an idiot if you think that his response was justified.
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