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re: Jay Bilas calls out the NCAA's hypocrisy.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:27 am to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:27 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Random players and teams getting caught and getting in trouble.
So what is the problem?
Almost all of us always talk about how "every team is doing it", well isn't it ridiculous that a random team or player gets in trouble while everyone is doing it? That's a rhetorical question lol.
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:07 am to shel311
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Let players take any endorsements they want with any company they want. Look at Oregon and soon to be Maryland, it's already happening, it's just against the rules, rules that were set in place based on what was relevant probably 50 years ago.
They should turn pro and take endorsements to their heart's content.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:15 am to lsu xman
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Dude gets free tuition plus room and board. 4yrs of that is worth over $50K. Over 120K at a private school like USC.
Anyone that thinks these kids should get additional money must be mildly retarded.
Ahh the old tuition argument. You do realize than Manziel has made a&m over 30 MILLION right?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:20 am to St Augustine
It's not even about the school paying him. Just don't have rules the prohibit him from cashing out on his name. No other students on scholarship are limited in what they can do away from the school. If JFF can make money on commercials and autographs because people recognize him, he should be allowed to do so.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:27 am to St Augustine
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You do realize than Manziel has made a&m over 30 MILLION right?
How many millions does TAMU pay other scholarship athletes NOT named Manziel tho?
What about the guys that get hurt, don't contribute, or athletes from non-revenue-generating sports?
I agree there is hypocrisy by the NCAA (because the NCAA DGAF), but there are 2 sides to this story.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 8:44 am
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:34 am to PKTiger
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It's not even about the school paying him. Just don't have rules the prohibit him from cashing out on his name. No other students on scholarship are limited in what they can do away from the school.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:34 am to Powerman
quote:He can. He'll just have to find another way to play football if he does.
But the guy won the Heisman trophy based on his skill. Why shouldn't he be able to monetize off of something that has made other people rich already?
The deal is made clear upon signing, and these adults consent to this deal. There is no hypocrisy, and this is 100% fair since all parties involved consent to the terms.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:35 am to Powerman
quote:This is why getting a job is a good thing.
Even for a 5 star recruit, there is no guarantee of ever making an NFL roster. Even if you are successful in college.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:38 am to medtiger
quote:100% correct. There is nothing wrong with what the NCAA does. If you would like to make money, you probably should do something other than play an NCAA-sanctioned sport. They make it perfectly clear before you sign with them that as long as you compete in their games, you retain amateur status. Wanna be a pro? Figure something else out.
Whoa...hold the frick up. Who says he can't make money off his name? In fact, it seems as though he's done just that. The NCAA isn't telling Manziel he can't make money off his name. They're just saying he can't make money off his name and continue to play NCAA football. No one put a gun to Manziel's head and forced him to sign a contract saying that he'd abide by the NCAA's rules in exchange for a college scholarship. Whatever happened to making people abide by the contracts they sign?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:40 am to VerlanderBEAST
I'm going to repost this column as it debunks most of the bullshite that the pro-sharecropping side is spewing:
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:44 am to shel311
quote:What he deserves isn't the issue. What he agreed to is the issue. If the deal he signed is unfair, then why would be ever sign such a thing?
Manziel brought something like $37million extra to A&M last season, and it's mildly retarded to think he deserves more than tuition and housing?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:44 am to ballscaster
This is going to sound laughable, mostly because I'm terrible at putting shite like this into words, but a drama major with serious star potential can get paid to act in movies while still performing in school plays and musicals. How is this any different than a football player getting paid by say an AFL team to play in a couple of games while also playing on the school footbal team?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:46 am to St Augustine
The tuition argument is akin to arguing that a sharecropper got a place to stay and a "salary".
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:48 am to Black n Gold
quote:Because drama isn't an NCAA sanctioned sport. It is a major. Football is an extracurricular activity and not part of a curriculum.
This is going to sound laughable, mostly because I'm terrible at putting shite like this into words, but a drama major with serious star potential can get paid to act in movies while still performing in school plays and musicals. How is this any different than a football player getting paid by say an AFL team to play in a couple of games while also playing on the school footbal team?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:48 am to ballscaster
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What he deserves isn't the issue. What he agreed to is the issue. If the deal he signed is unfair, then why would be ever sign such a thing?
I agree he's guilty as frick for breaking the rules he agreed to and should be punished accordingly if/when the ncaa collects sufficient damning evidence, but that doesn't diminish the absurdity of the rule itself.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:49 am to ballscaster
Because there are no other viable options.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:50 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:The rule isn't absurd, or else no one with professional earning potential would ever agree to follow it.
I agree he's guilty as frick for breaking the rules he agreed to and should be punished accordingly if/when the ncaa collects sufficient damning evidence, but that doesn't diminish the absurdity of the rule itself.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:53 am to Sophandros
quote:Interesting. That is, these players need the NCAA in order to maximize their future earning potential. By participating in NCAA games, a talented player stands to make millions more dollars than he would if he didn't do so. So very interesting.
Because there are no other viable options.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:53 am to ballscaster
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Because drama isn't an NCAA sanctioned sport. It is a major. Football is an extracurricular activity and not part of a curriculum.
True, but the plays and musicals held by the school could be considered an extracurricular activity. The school sells tickets to the plays just like they sell tickets to football games.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:55 am to ballscaster
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The rule isn't absurd, or else no one with professional earning potential would ever agree to follow it.
You would agree to follow it if your professional earning potential could be effectively negated for not doing so, as in this case.
Hell, people put up with stupid rules all the time for a shot at getting or to keep a paycheck, tbh.
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