re: Jaguars released David Garrard

Posted by Tom288

Jacksonville

Member since Apr 2009

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Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:25 pm to gatorrocks

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Dude... The Jaguars are literally the worst organization in the NFL. Worse than Oakland.

You are a fricking moron.

And McCown outplayed Garrard last season but got hurt. McCown is at least as good as Garrard, if not better, and isn't due to make 8mil this year.

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Posted by SprintFun

Columbus, OH

Member since Dec 2007

45841 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:27 pm to gatorrocks

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Dude... The Jaguars are literally the worst organization in the NFL. Worse than Oakland.

Mike Brown and the Bengals say "Hey, what's goin on?!"

This post was edited on 9/6/11 at 2:27 pm

Posted by OweO

Plaquemine, La

Member since Sep 2009

122013 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:27 pm to Kracka

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shite Washington could make an attempt to get him.

That would be a good fit for him, but there are several teams that can use him as well.

Cincinnati, S.F., Oakland (maybe), Seattle are other teams off the top of my head that might be able to use his services.

Posted by roadGator

Member since Feb 2009

157481 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:28 pm to OweO

As a Jags fan I could not be happier. They were going to lose the loyal fans if they didn't take their lumps with Gabbert at some point this season.

However, we are starting Luke McKown.

Posted by GeauxColonels

Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan

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Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:34 pm to roadGator

Here's the important question....

Does this change my Pick 'Em choice now?

Posted by OBUDan

Chicago

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40723 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:40 pm to Tom288

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McCown is at least as good as Garrard, if not better, and isn't due to make 8mil this year.

I'm sure he will take the Jaguars to the promised land.

Posted by gatorrocks

Lake Mary, FL

Member since Oct 2007

13998 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:42 pm to Tom288

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You are a fricking moron.

Prove me wrong...

Why is Del Rio still the coach?

They DO not develop their talent.

Why can't they fill their stadium? The only game I've ever seen filled up was when the Steelers were in town a few years ago (I was there). I've been to other games (company has tickets) and it looks like the FSU home games with less people there.

Why is Weaver voted one of the worst owners in the NFL by writers and fans alike? Look it up. Google "nfl owner rankings".

Fact is Jacksonville is a horrible organization led by Weaver who clearly does not know how to run an NFL team. Well... He knows how to run it into the ground.

At least Al Davis was successful during his tenure. Hell... Even the Bengals won their division in the past few years. Better than the Jags.

Posted by Kafka

I am the moral conscience of TD

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Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:45 pm to OweO

HATTERS GONNA HAT

Posted by OweO

Plaquemine, La

Member since Sep 2009

122013 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:55 pm to Kafka

John Clayton just tweeted the following.

The release of David Garrard saves the Jags $8.1 million and puts them $33 million under the cap.

Posted by Tom288

Jacksonville

Member since Apr 2009

21453 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 2:57 pm to OBUDan

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I'm sure he will take the Jaguars to the promised land.

I'm sure Garrard would have.

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Why is Del Rio still the coach?

He probably isn't going to be after this season. He's been kept because of his salary and he was given a little bit of room since we started to rebuild after Shack left.

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They DO not develop their talent.

Wrong. We haven't drafted talent until recently. We picked a lot of busts, that's not a coaching issue. However you'll find few fans that support Del Rio as coach. What talent did we not develop, specifically?

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Why can't they fill their stadium? The only game I've ever seen filled up was when the Steelers were in town a few years ago (I was there). I've been to other games (company has tickets) and it looks like the FSU home games with less people there.

We didn't have a single blackout last year. Our stadium holds 80,000+ because of Florida/Georgia. Even with the tarps we have one of the bigger stadiums in the league, even though we're one of the smaller markets. Try to put two and two together there.

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Why is Weaver voted one of the worst owners in the NFL by writers and fans alike? Look it up. Google "nfl owner rankings".

I found one Yahoo article and he was ranked 23rd.
Owner Rankings

But you're right, he's the worst owner in the league because "writers and fans" voted in a poll.

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Fact is Jacksonville is a horrible organization led by Weaver who clearly does not know how to run an NFL team. Well... He knows how to run it into the ground.

Seriously, you are an idiot. How has he run it into the ground?

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At least Al Davis was successful during his tenure. Hell... Even the Bengals won their division in the past few years. Better than the Jags.

Put Oakland in the AFC South in those years and we can think about how they would have fared.

This post was edited on 9/6/11 at 2:59 pm

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Posted by Lester Earl

3rd Ward

Member since Nov 2003

290695 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 3:02 pm to TN Bhoy

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Told y'all they'd be in the bottom of the division.

someone argued with you?

Posted by ThisWayChad

Member since Nov 2009

2556 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 3:38 pm to Lester Earl

as a Texans fan, I support this move

Posted by Tom288

Jacksonville

Member since Apr 2009

21453 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 3:46 pm to ThisWayChad

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as a Texans fan, I support this move

Good point. I would have been terrified to face Garrard. Imagine going up aginst a quarterback that can't call an audible or go through his progressions.

Too horrible to even think about...

This post was edited on 9/6/11 at 3:46 pm

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Posted by St Augustine

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Member since Mar 2006

72057 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 4:19 pm to Tom288

Radio guys here seem to think that it was a gene smith move more than del rio.

I think they are saving some money, seeing what they get with mcknown, and grooming gabbert. The timing is crazy though.

Posted by Tom288

Jacksonville

Member since Apr 2009

21453 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 4:28 pm to St Augustine

The timing makes me think Del Rio, not Smith.

Apparently the players weren't surprised and had known it was coming sooner or later.

Posted by bbrownso

Member since Mar 2008

8985 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 4:35 pm to Tom288

They shouldn't be surprised. Del Rio did the same thing 4 years ago when he dropped Byron Leftwich right before Labor Day weekend and installed Garrard as his starter.

Posted by gatorrocks

Lake Mary, FL

Member since Oct 2007

13998 posts

Posted on 9/6/11 at 4:36 pm to Tom288

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Wrong. We haven't drafted talent until recently. We picked a lot of busts, that's not a coaching issue. However you'll find few fans that support Del Rio as coach. What talent did we not develop, specifically?

Tell me... How many pro bowlers have come from the Jags recently? I mean, besides Jones-Drew who is really the only player outside of Jacksonville that anyone knows about. Wait... If I remember, Garrard went to the pro bowl last year. That means Jax just cut a pro bowl QB. Awesome!

And that IS a coaching issue. Does Del Rio not help with the draft? Part of his job is talent evaluation correct?

I mean, think about the top teams. Steelers, San Diego, Jets, Patriots, etc. All of them consistently develop their players into stars.

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We didn't have a single blackout last year. Our stadium holds 80,000+ because of Florida/Georgia. Even with the tarps we have one of the bigger stadiums in the league, even though we're one of the smaller markets. Try to put two and two together there

With the tarps on I believe the capacity is 67k (or around there) right with a no blackout of 50k? Something like that. 67k puts Jax in the lower half of capacity. And you're right. Jax did increase attendance last year. So I'm wrong there. However... We'll see if that continues if the losing begins... again.

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But you're right, he's the worst owner in the league because "writers and fans" voted in a poll.

How about Forbes ranking the Jags dead last in the rankings as well? Does that count?

Or how about Sports Illustrated? That count?

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Put Oakland in the AFC South in those years and we can think about how they would have fared.

When was the last time Jax went to the super bowl? When was the last time Oakland went? Case closed...

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Seriously, you are an idiot. How has he run it into the ground?

Oh... I don't know... I'm sure you'll figure it out when it's the LA Jaguars. Oh, and the Jags are worth less than any other NFL franchise. I mean, if you believe what Forbes has to say.