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Is your team looking for a quarterback to lead it to the promised land? Avoid a SB winner
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:20 pm
going by history, it probably won't even result in a Superbowl appearance.
Only 4 quarterbacks in history have been starters in a Superbowl for multiple teams:
Craig Morton
Kurt Warner
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Only Manning and Brady have won a SB with multiple teams as a starter.
If your team has a chance to get either Burrow or Mahomes in a trade, Burrow is the better choice for championships.
Just something I found interesting.
Only 4 quarterbacks in history have been starters in a Superbowl for multiple teams:
Craig Morton
Kurt Warner
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Only Manning and Brady have won a SB with multiple teams as a starter.
If your team has a chance to get either Burrow or Mahomes in a trade, Burrow is the better choice for championships.
Just something I found interesting.
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:26 pm to magildachunks
That’s not how statistics work. How many QBs have won a Super Bowl? How many have not? Let’s say there have been about 50 SB winning QBs. 4/50 or 46/every other QB that’s ever existed.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:31 pm to magildachunks
Well it's just ignore the odds of even being a Super Bowl winning quarterback in your little equation
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:58 pm to TheWalrus
quote:
That’s not how statistics work. How many QBs have won a Super Bowl? How many have not? Let’s say there have been about 50 SB winning QBs. 4/50 or 46/every other QB that’s ever existed.
Of all the quarterbacks to ever play in the Superbowl, only 4 have done it with multiple teams. Only 2 have won a Superbowl with multiple teams.
How am I wrong with my assertion that trading for a Superbowl winning QB is not the great move that fans and media make it out to be?
Think about why: usually the QB is in the tail end of his career.
Usually the results are like Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers, not Brett Favre and Joe Montana. (Picked 2 situations considered successful but not as much as the biggest 4)
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:11 pm to magildachunks
quote:Super Bowl winning QBs never leave their teams in their prime. I don't know what kind of sample size you think you're working from. They really only leave when they've fallen off, after which few actually have promised land expectations of them
How am I wrong with my assertion that trading for a Superbowl winning QB is not the great move that fans and media make it out to be?
quote:Your argument isn't really against SB winning QBs, it's against guys past their prime. Well no shite
Think about why: usually the QB is in the tail end of his career.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:14 pm to magildachunks
quote:
Craig Morton
quote:
SB winner
Someone needs to let Roger Staubach know that Craig Morton won one of his Super Bowls.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:35 pm to magildachunks
Still better odds than hiring a retread head coach with a super bowl
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:45 pm to magildachunks
Post makes no sense at all. 2 of 4. 50%. That’s a coin flip. How does that prove the point?
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:50 pm to wareaglepete
It's not a well thought out thread by Magilda.
But maybe he/she is a college kid, toking up one too many and posting on a message board about the NFL draft. Not the worst shape to be in.
But maybe he/she is a college kid, toking up one too many and posting on a message board about the NFL draft. Not the worst shape to be in.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:01 pm to deltadummy
And of the two that lost the Super Bowl, Kurt Warner wasn't the reason the Cardinals lost
and could have easily been the reason they won
and could have easily been the reason they won
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:06 pm to Ghost of Colby
quote:
Someone needs to let Roger Staubach know that Craig Morton won one of his Super Bowls.
Reading comprehension is hard.
Pointed out that only 4 have started in a Superbowl for multiple teams.
Of those 4, only 2 have won a Superbowl with multiple teams.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:22 pm to wareaglepete
quote:
Post makes no sense at all. 2 of 4. 50%. That’s a coin flip. How does that prove the point?
Of the 35 QBs to win a Superbowl, 13 have won multiple. Of those 13, only 2 have done so with multiple teams.
So 5% of Superbowl winning QBs have won a Superbowl with multiple teams.
5%, not 50%.
50% of the QBs to start for multiple teams in a Superbowl have won with those teams. But to really illustrate how rare an achievement those 4 accomplished you have to divide that number by the amount of QBs who have started win and lose.
I'm not doing that right now.
Suffice to say that if it's 5% of the winners, its a way smaller percentage of the total starters.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:41 pm to magildachunks
Oh I understood your attempted math it's just illogical
Mathematicians once calculated Earth was the center of the universe
Mathematicians once calculated Earth was the center of the universe
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:13 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Oh I understood your attempted math it's just illogical
How?
Seriously, what is illogical with the premise?
Of all the QBs to ever start in a Superbowl, only four have managed to start for multiple teams.
Of the 35 QBs to ever win a Superbowl, only 3 have managed to be the starter in the Superbowl for multiple teams.
Of the 35 QBS to win a Superbowl, only 2 have won with multiple teams.
That's 5% of Superbowl winning QBs.
The odds are against signing one being successful.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:30 pm to magildachunks
Noodle arm Manning had ZERO to do with the Broncos winning the SB.
More of a liability than anything.
And with the Colts, got lucky to play a shitty Bears team with Rex fricken Grossman, IIRC, and the true MVP of that game was Joseph Addai.
More of a liability than anything.
And with the Colts, got lucky to play a shitty Bears team with Rex fricken Grossman, IIRC, and the true MVP of that game was Joseph Addai.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:32 pm to magildachunks
So if I can get a SB winner I have a 50% shot to win a title? Sign me the frick up.
And yes, I know there are multiple ways to show this statistically and this is simplistic, but give me the experience.
And yes, I know there are multiple ways to show this statistically and this is simplistic, but give me the experience.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:37 pm to magildachunks
quote:the odds are against them even making 1 super bowl... omg
The odds are against signing one being successful.
And you're overvaluing QB play in a SB
Trent Dilfer?
the small sample size renders you A'ha into a D'oh
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:59 pm to magildachunks
quote:
Seriously, what is illogical with the premise?
The fact that teams don't get rid of SB quarterbacks and SB quarterbacks don't look to leave successful teams so it's a small sample size within a small sample size.
You think Mahomes has been "stuck" in KC because every other GM thinks his luck has run out or their fans won't turn out for sloppy seconds?
Posted on 4/24/26 at 11:52 pm to magildachunks
I'm fascinated by what kind of point this guy thinks he's making
Only 12 SB winning QBs even played for another team after
Dilfer (29)
Foles (30)
Williams (32)
Hostetler (32)
Warner (33)
Namath (34)
Stabler (34)
Manning (36)
Montana (37)
Favre (38)
Unitas (40)
Brady (43)
Arguably the only 2 actually brought in to be that missing piece (Brady and Manning) won it again
The remaining 10 weren't. Warner, Montana, Favre were old dudes brought in to mid franchises to stabilize. Namath, Unitas, Stabler, Williams, Hostetler, Dilfer, Foles were bridge players and/or backups with no expectations
Only 12 SB winning QBs even played for another team after
Dilfer (29)
Foles (30)
Williams (32)
Hostetler (32)
Warner (33)
Namath (34)
Stabler (34)
Manning (36)
Montana (37)
Favre (38)
Unitas (40)
Brady (43)
Arguably the only 2 actually brought in to be that missing piece (Brady and Manning) won it again
The remaining 10 weren't. Warner, Montana, Favre were old dudes brought in to mid franchises to stabilize. Namath, Unitas, Stabler, Williams, Hostetler, Dilfer, Foles were bridge players and/or backups with no expectations
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 4/25/26 at 3:55 pm to RemouladeSawce
Mike Vrabbel was the first who played then coached the same team in the Super Bowl, and that was just this year, and now he's been exposed as having an affair.
so that is an interesting observation
so the odds arent good
so that is an interesting observation
so the odds arent good
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