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re: Is UGA primed to be Bama's equal going forward?

Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:11 pm to
I think it's going to be their next coach.

The HS football players here in GA love UGA, they just accepted they were always second best.

Kirby has them believing again. But he's not the coach that will win it all. He will be like Tater Tot Bowden was at Auburn, come in guns blazing and fizz out but leave the program primed for the next coach to use that talent and win it all.

2017 was the best season Kirby will ever have in Athens.
Posted by UGADawg912
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:27 pm to
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Bama is a Bentley and UGA is that Chrysler 300 that all the black deacons drive.


but we got a Bentley Grille for our 300
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:37 pm to
Equal? No of course not. They don’t have nick. Kirby is no nick. They can be second man up though.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:39 pm to
Prob lose to a Syracuse / pitt kinda team.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 11:45 pm
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 12:35 am to
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Is UGA primed to be Bama's equal going forward?


as much as I hate to say it.. probably not. What Alabama has done the last decade is insane.

on A historical level.

but..

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we know that Alabama isn't going anywhere


nothing lasts forever.

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I think we're about to witness some legendary SEC championship games between these 2 powerhouse programs.



I think Mullen will do a good job at Florida and they can give UGA a run for their money in the East. Maybe not right away but in the years to come.







Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:46 am to
Alabama has made 4 straight playoffs, including 3 straight championship games, winning 2 of them.

Clemson has made 3 straight playoffs, including 2 championship games, winning 1 of them.

Georgia has 1 playoff/championship game appearance.

It's foolish to put them in the same category as Bama and Clemson until they actually repro success.

Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:48 am to
Yes. UGA is going to go on a roll for a while. They will beat bama in Atlanta next year.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:52 am to
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They will beat bama in Atlanta next year.




They won't make it....again
Posted by SECFan1995
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:13 am to
2019 especially has a good chance at being an even better team than 2016 Alabama and it fricking sucks in Georgia's case as if all works out well, that might be Georgia's most talented team ever on that year but no.

2017 was a 1 in 10 years situation that broke out, realistically with all of the circumstances (not just the east) and Georgia won't have any easier chances in the future, just like how the Falcons also fricked away their easiest chance completely.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:37 am to
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Alabama has made 4 straight playoffs, including 3 straight championship games, winning 2 of them.

Clemson has made 3 straight playoffs, including 2 championship games, winning 1 of them.

Georgia has 1 playoff/championship game appearance.

It's foolish to put them in the same category as Bama and Clemson until they actually repro success

That's why it's speculation about the future and a God damn question. What the frick man
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:39 am to
Looks like they will be able to recruit with if not better then bama. Can kirby outcoach saban is the question. Will have to wait and see, I think ut will be very close
Posted by Kraut Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 11:04 am to
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Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Looks like they will be able to recruit with if not better then bama. Can kirby outcoach saban is the question. Will have to wait and see, I think ut will be very close

Saban isn't a great get day coach. He's the best at running a program. Above average game day coach but not elite.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:01 pm to
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I think it's going to be their next coach.

The HS football players here in GA love UGA, they just accepted they were always second best.

Kirby has them believing again. But he's not the coach that will win it all. He will be like Tater Tot Bowden was at Auburn, come in guns blazing and fizz out but leave the program primed for the next coach to use that talent and win it all.





I actually agree wholeheartedly with your analogy but you got the coaches wrong. We wandered in the wilderness with goff and donnan. Richt is the coach that upgraded our talent, got players believing, came in guns a blazing (won several SECs, BCS bowls, etc) then fizzled out. And now Kirby is that "next coach" to take us to yet another level.

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2017 was the best season Kirby will ever have in Athens.


I'm curious why you think that year 2 is the best season he'll ever have? Remember this is his 2nd year ever as a head coach, and it's likely taht 2017 will be the least talented "on paper" roster top to bottom we'll have in a while. Last year we signed the 3rd ranked class, 1st this year, already 1st for next year. And call me crazy but I have to imagine that he'll learn and grow as a HC as he has more time at it, which only seems logical IMO.

I fully believe we will take a step back in '18 simply because some of our defensive losses will be too much to overcome. But to think that in '19 and onward we won't constantly be in the playoff picture is pretty naive.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:10 pm to
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My UG friends seem to question the university administration's commitment to football excellence over the long term. I know no details, just parroting what they've said. They've been cheap in the past, their AD sucks. The fanbase is already complaining about ticket prices rising.

They believe there is a 5 year window for success but nothing comparable to ours because the PTB at UG have a lower level of commitment to football.




this is almost entirely incorrect.

-First of all, yes our AD does suck. There's not a fan or supporter around that actually likes the guy or thinks he's doing a good job. So they hit that right on the money.
-The administration WAS very hesitant to move us into the 21st century, and it was the biggest gripe Richt had here. One year late in his tenure he actually paid part of his assistant coaches' salaries out of his own pocket because the administration was too cheap to approve it. He asked for an IPF for years and was never given one. Etc.
-Pruitt started the ball slowly rolling on making some of these changes, by basically shoving their noses in it like an owner does to a dog that crapped on the carpet. He could easily say "look...I've won titles at bama and FSU and I know what a winning program looks like. They have x,y, and z and yall are barely even to point a,b,c. How do you expect to win if you aren't going to do so and so". After richt left and kirby came on board the dam broke fully loose.
-We have a state of the art IPF. We have a MASSIVE support staff of analysts and GAs. We have skyrocket our recruiting budget and expenses. We are renovating the west end of the stadium to build a new lockerrom and recruit lounge (to my knoweldge our last stadium construction was in 2003 adding the upper deck, so this was sorely needed). Our ticket costs have risen each of the last 2 seasons, we are now one of the most expensive "all-in" tickets in the league, if not the most expensive. Next on the docket is expanding the weight room.


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They believe there is a 5 year window for success


I honestly can't comprehend how anyone who is even casually paying attention to the program can believe this. Like it defies logic. Tehre is no "window", and damn sure not only 5 years. do your friends think if we don't win a title in 5 years kirby should be let go? This is only the START of things. Look what we did in only year 2 after having to wrangle support from our AD's bony fingers, and what we're doing to keep us successful going forward.

In the past our PTB may not have wanted to go all-in with support but they'd be either blind or retarded to not be all in now after this past season. By actually opening the purse strings and giving full support to the coach, we reaped the rewards of an SEC title, beating every rival we have, winning the rose bowl, and playing for the NCG.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:25 pm to
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That's why it's speculation about the future and a God damn question. What the frick man
You're taking this hard
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83459 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Saban isn't a great get day coach
He sure as shite ain't bad
Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:28 pm to
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Bama is going 15-0 next year and will win 12 of the 15 games by 2 TDs or more


Ok,go ahead and get the mortgage on it then

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Alabama' s development of players is unmatched. R


There's only so much development any coach can do with 20 hr practice weeks

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Lots of SEC teams have 5 star players


Not close to what Bama has.

Why is it so difficult to accept?
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
44830 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 4:34 pm to
It's going to take a few more years of Kirby recruiting like this to have the depth of talent across the board to match Alabama
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:02 pm to
Essentially yeah, Kirby's a Saban disciple, that UGA football program basically follows the Saban football model to a T and that resemblance was basically represented in the natty game with how close the two teams were, ensures to be a great SEC dynamic with those 2 for years to come as long as Bama maintains the Saban model after Saban's retirement
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