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re: is there a more coordinated bigman in NBA history than AD23?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:09 am to Poodlebrain
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:09 am to Poodlebrain
While the records are almost untouchable, it is asinine to act like AD wouldn't have put up the same type of numbers had he played in that era.
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:11 am to Poodlebrain
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All he has to do is better than the 22.9 rpg that Wilt Chamberlain averaged over his 15 year career.
I'm not much of a pro basketball guy...is that stat correct? An average of 23 rebounds a game over 15 years?
Holy shite that is insane.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:24 am to WG_Dawg
Have you seen him play as much as we have?
Being unbiased in it, I can't think of a player I've seen like him.
Being unbiased in it, I can't think of a player I've seen like him.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:28 am to Poodlebrain
Davis would've dominated that era more so than Wilt.
What Davis will do is continue to be the most efficient player in the game. Has there ever been a player as good as he is at the age of 21? He might break the PER record this season. He led the league in blocks per game last season, and is doing so once again. He'll likely win multiple Mvps and DPOY award at the rate he's at.
What Davis will do is continue to be the most efficient player in the game. Has there ever been a player as good as he is at the age of 21? He might break the PER record this season. He led the league in blocks per game last season, and is doing so once again. He'll likely win multiple Mvps and DPOY award at the rate he's at.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:30 am to CocoLoco
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Have you seen him play as much as we have?
The answer is obviously no. The guy has become the best midrange shooting big at age 21 to go along with his freakish athleticism.
Biggest issue for AD is the man just needs to be able to stay on the damn court.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:31 am to CocoLoco
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Davis would've dominated that era more so than Wilt.
Davis > wilt, got it.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:32 am to Boomshockalocka
I don't get what's so absurd. Davis will go down as one of the greatest big men ever. If you don't think that's the case then you aren't the basketball mind I thought you were.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:35 am to quail man
Wilt is already one of the greatest ever. Aint no "will go" about it.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:42 am to Boomshockalocka
I'm saying Davis would've dominated that era as well. Shaq would've been able to put up 100 in that time too.
Would wilt be able to put up 100 in today's game? No, not even fricking close. He wouldn't have had the absurd rebounding numbers either.
Would wilt be able to put up 100 in today's game? No, not even fricking close. He wouldn't have had the absurd rebounding numbers either.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:44 am to Boomshockalocka
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Davis > wilt, got it.
He's not saying for their era. You honestly think Wilt, at his prime, would be better? Davis is dominating the best athletes of all time at age 21 to the same extent(PER is very close, Davis will probably finish a little ahead) that Wilt was able to dominate short, unathletic, white guys. Its an absolutely ridiculous notion.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:49 am to CocoLoco
quote:bullshite. Wilt was 7'1" 275 and was a champion track and field athlete. Chamberlain would have fold, spindle and mutilated Davis. Chamberlain averaged over 40 ppg and 25 rpg his first 6 years in the league. Davis hasn't averaged better than 24 ppg and 10 rpg in any single season. I won't bother to look up their assist stats because the scoring and rebounding differentials are just ridiculous. Let me know when the NBA changes rules to make Davis less dominant.
Davis would've dominated that era more so than Wilt.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:51 am to Poodlebrain
These youngsters have a lack of perspective at times. 
Posted on 3/10/15 at 8:59 am to Poodlebrain
So wilt would put those stats up in the NBA today? You can't be that stupid
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:13 am to Boomshockalocka
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These youngsters have a lack of perspective at times.
C'mon, you can't translate Wilt's game to today. It is ridiculous.
That is like saying Clayton Kershaw can't hold a candle to Old Hoss Radbourn until he goes 59-12 in a season.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:14 am to TheSexecutioner
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Davis is dominating the best athletes of all time at age 21 to the same extent
He isn't dominating to the "same extent".
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PER is very close
It is impossible to know what Wilt's PER really was...they didn't track steals, blocks, or turnovers for that matter. I'm sure you knew that though.
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Its an absolutely ridiculous notion.
Not nearly as ridiculous as the idea that Wilt wasn't an exceptional athlete that could compete at a high level in today's NBA.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:17 am to brgfather129
I'm not saying he couldn't. He'd still be an elite talent in today's NBA. But he wouldn't dominate any where close to the extent he did in that era. I don't think it's crazy to think if you took he elite players in the NBA today and played them in that same era that they wouldn't have absurd stats as well.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:18 am to Lester Earl
along with Harden and Westbrook, AD is my favorite player to watch. it's amazing the skills that he possesses.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:23 am to CocoLoco
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I'm not saying he couldn't. He'd still be an elite talent in today's NBA. But he wouldn't dominate any where close to the extent he did in that era. I don't think it's crazy to think if you took he elite players in the NBA today and played them in that same era that they wouldn't have absurd stats as well.
I 100% agree...he isn't averaging 50pts and 26reb per game in today's NBA.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:25 am to brgfather129
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Not nearly as ridiculous as the idea that Wilt wasn't an exceptional athlete that could compete at a high level in today's NBA.
Sure Wilt could compete at a high level today, but you've got to be practical. Hell, in the season where he averaged 50.4 PPG, he also averaged 48.5 minutes per game and 39.5 FGAs per game. That would never happen today. Literally, never.
Additionally, rebound numbers for big men are inflated in that period due to the style of game that was played. The NBA went from 2.8 3PA in 1979-1980 to 22.8 3PA in the current season. The longer attempts mean longer rebounds.
Lastly, in 61-62, the league average was 107.7 FGA per game. That number has shrunk to 83.5 FGA per game this season. Considering the lower FG% and higher amount of FTAs, the 61-62 season had 71.4 rebounds per game. This season the NBA is averaging 43.3 rebounds per game.
Long story short, IDGAF about Wilt's numbers compared to today's game.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 9:30 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:25 am to Poodlebrain
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Bull shite. Wilt was 7'1" 275 and was a champion track and field athlete.
What does that even mean? I was a champion track and field athlete too. So were a lot of people who aren't very fast. Was he olympic level? He high jumped 6'6". That's not any good for an elite athlete of that size. But don't let an inconvenient thing like track and field where the results are standardized across different eras get in the way of your belief that Wilt would be some super-human athlete in todays game.
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Let me know when the NBA changes rules to make Davis less dominant.
Like when they had to change FT shooting rules because of how ridiculous the game got with people chasing Wilt around to intentionally foul him because he was so incompetent at FTs.
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