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re: Is the era of the Hall of Fame Running Back coming to an end?

Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:00 pm to
Just for reference, here's what I found regarding some former runningbacks who arent in the HOF.

Corey Dillion- 11241 yards, 82 touchdowns
Eddie George- 10441 yards, 68 touchdowns
Fred Taylor-11695 yards, 66 touchdowns
Shaun Alexander- 9453 yards, 100 touchdowns
Chris Johnson- 9651 yards, 56 touchdowns
Ricky Watters- 10643 yards, 78 touchdowns
Priest Holmes- 8172 yards, 82 touchdowns
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:21 pm to
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Henry is a probability.


That will further prove how weak the Pro football hall is

The rest have even less of a case.

Henry is a great player but needs a few more seasons to be deserving IMO
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21172 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:59 pm to
Henry gets in. That’s it
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77249 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:39 pm to
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Corey Dillion- 11241 yards, 82 touchdowns
Eddie George- 10441 yards, 68 touchdowns
Fred Taylor-11695 yards, 66 touchdowns
Shaun Alexander- 9453 yards, 100 touchdowns
Chris Johnson- 9651 yards, 56 touchdowns
Ricky Watters- 10643 yards, 78 touchdowns
Priest Holmes- 8172 yards, 82 touchdowns


LeSean McCoy - 11,102 yards, 73 touchdowns
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5059 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:58 pm to
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I would take Ricky Williams before any of these maybe except for Henry. People dont realize but he still had over 10,000 yards rushing with the years he was away from the game.


Ha wow I didn’t realize just how good his career numbers ended. I remember his two great Miami seasons, but he ended career with over 12,500 yards from scrimmage and 76 TDs.

This despite losing two pre-30 seasons to suspension/retirement and another three pre-30 seasons to Ditka’s saints.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:59 pm to
No

Running the ball with success is still how you win in football
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
30753 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:27 pm to
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With a couple more big seasons, Elliot could get in too


Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5059 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:14 pm to
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LeSean McCoy - 11,102 yards, 73 touchdowns


Interestingly, Edgerrin James did get in with 12,246 and 80 TDs

James total yards and TDs:
15,610 and 91

McCoy total yards and TDs:
15000 and 89

Wonder why James for in. His career is basically Shady McCoy.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31821 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:27 pm to
Henry and McCaffery are the only ones with a chance. Maybe Chubb.
Posted by ATCTx
Member since Nov 2016
1269 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 11:18 pm to
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*Mark Ingram 8,111 Yds 65 RushTDs 10 RecTDs
Melvin Gordon 6,462 Yds 55 RushTDs 14 RecTDs
*Ezekiel Elliot 8,262 Yds 68 RushTDs 12 RecTDs
*Derrick Henry 8,335 Yds 78 RushTDs 3 RecTDs
*Christian McCaffery 4,726 Yds 38 RushTDs 22 RecTDs 3756 RecYds
Alvin Kamara 5,135 Yds 49 RushTDs 22 RecTDs
Jonathan Taylor 3,841 Yds 33 RushTDs 3 RecTDs
Nick Chubb 6,341 Yds 48 RushTDs 4 RecTDs


Very interesting question. RBs are going to have to be really special to get in given the rules now all favor passing the ball.

The only near lock I see is Derrick Henry. He is special. It's too early to tell on the rest. McCaffrey is probably next on the list and now that he's on a contender, a ring would certainly help his chances. Zeke will struggle to get 11,000 yards which is very good but I don't think he's a HOF.

Frank Gore is the 3rd all time rusher, and some think he doesn't make it. He was 2nd team all pro once, five pro bowls and made the 2010s all decade team.
Posted by lsusa
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Member since Oct 2005
6092 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:00 am to
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The only RBs with a track record in the league I feel have a chance at HOF are Derrick Henry(best shot of any), Nick Chubb, and Josh Jacobs. McCaffery has too much of an injury risk for me to be comfortable including him. There is such a logjam of retired running backs who need to be inducted first--Steven Jackson, Otis Anderson, Roger Craig, Frank Gore, Marshawn Lynch, Shaun Alexander, Adrian Peterson, Leshon McCoy, Corey Dillon, Ricky Williams, Fred Taylor, Eddie George, Chris Johnson, Priest Holmes, and possibly Ahman Green and Jamal Charles. There aren't a lot of backs in the league on track to have the same career as those guys and they are still waiting to get in . (Admittedly Gore and Peterson just haven't been retired long enough to be eligible. They should get selected the first year they become eligible.)


Of all the guys you list, Roger Craig is a guy who to me is a Hall of Fame player. He seemed like a HOF guy when he played and in hindsight.

Peterson is likely in but the off field stuff may make him wait a couple of years.

After that, the rest of the guys all seemingly have decent cases that can be made but also seem to have 1-2 big sticking points. Some may have an exceptional peak production but limited longevity. Others were very good over a long time, but never had the peak.

Mostly though, when I think of these guys when they played I never remotely thought of guys like Ahman Green, Corey Dillion, Chris Johnson or Jamal Charles as hall of fame RB. I always saw them a level below Alexander, Williams, Taylor and George.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
15689 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:02 am to
Before Charles had his one forgettable season with Jacksonville he had the average per carry in NFL history. It was a good .2 or .3 yards higher than Jim Brown.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213660 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:39 am to
If CMC stays in San Fran he has a great shot.

If Henry stays this productive for another 4-5 years he should get in.

Elliott ONLY gets in because he is a Cowboys player.
Posted by lsusa
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Member since Oct 2005
6092 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:14 am to
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Before Charles had his one forgettable season with Jacksonville he had the average per carry in NFL history. It was a good .2 or .3 yards higher than Jim Brown.


Charles had a nice 5 year stretch and he was an all-pro twice. The YPC is an impressive stat, although he had 1000 fewer carries than Brown. Also, looks like he had 6 carries for 7 yards with Jacksonville…not sure how big a drop that made.

Not saying that a case can’t be made for him (or the others).

In contrast, I brought up Roger Craig who made the all decade team for the 80s, was a key contributor on three super bowl winning teams, first player in history with 1000+ rushing and receiving in the same season, nfl offensive poty, made playoffs every season in his career, set an nfl record for reception in a season.

Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:26 am to
So basically thats just punishing Zeke, who has been better throughout his entire career statistically, because Davis' team has done more in the playoffs, something a RB doesn't really have that much control over.

And I'm not really arguing that Zeke should be in, like I said I think he is just "Hall of Very Good" which is a large set of players. Just that its interesting comparing the two because Zeke's stats are clearly better.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24862 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:16 am to
Henry for sure, the others have work to do.

Maybe CM7, none of the rest get in imo
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
37815 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:21 am to
Henry is a lock

CMC is a bit on an anomaly because he's as much a receiver as he is a running back. I think he needs 3 more good, healthy years to get in.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
4969 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:57 am to
I think it’s been this way for a while with outliers. Think back to mid 2000’s. You had guys like AP and LT on a different level and then you have guys like Westbrook, Clinton Portis, MJD, Michael Turner who were no pushovers. They just weren’t LT or AP. Just like most of these guys aren’t as dominant as Derrick Henry but can still be in a similar conversation.

McCaffrey is up at the top comparing averages but his availability holds him down.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 9:04 am
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16498 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:00 am to
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Never would have guessed Zeke and Henry have had almost exactly the same career.



Henry is much more the dynamic runner. King Henry is only one of 8 players in NFL history who rushed for over 2000 yards in a season. You miss him after the LBers and he is gone. All 6'3" and 240 LBs of him. He's a freak of nature. And that stiff arm is legendary in the NFL. Poor, poor, comparison.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
4342 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:26 am to
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quote:Fred Taylor still isn't in with 11,700 yards at 4.6 ypc

Not in HOF? Are we kidding? Who the hell are these voters?


Fred Taylor’s crime was spending his career with the Jaguars. Put him in a Steeler uniform and he’s a first ballot HOFer.

The guy was a production machine and he went to ONE pro bowl. Playing in Jacksonville killed him from a notoriety standpoint.
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