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Is tennis the most unforgiving sport if you're 3rd or 4th best?
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:11 pm
Because it's such an individualized sport that doesn't seem to have the same margin for meltdowns that golf does. Going back to 1993 there have only been seven men who have won at Wimbledon:
Goran Ivaniševic - 1
Lleyton Hewitt - 1
Andy Murray - 2
Rafael Nadal - 2
Novak Djokovic - 7
Pete Sampras - 7
Roger Federer - 8
That's a crazy run of dominance over nearly 30 years. Tennis feels like a sport where there's a clearcut top 2 or 3 and everyone else is just there for the memories.
Goran Ivaniševic - 1
Lleyton Hewitt - 1
Andy Murray - 2
Rafael Nadal - 2
Novak Djokovic - 7
Pete Sampras - 7
Roger Federer - 8
That's a crazy run of dominance over nearly 30 years. Tennis feels like a sport where there's a clearcut top 2 or 3 and everyone else is just there for the memories.
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:12 pm to Thundercles
It’s pretty brutal. You have no teammate to get bailed out with.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:17 pm to Thundercles
quote:
Goran Ivaniševic
I remember watching him in 2001. Unfrickinreal serve.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:17 pm to Thundercles
I think so. As an example, I've not been the biggest Stefanos Tsitsipas but I literally felt bad for him on a personal level watching him play Alcaraz and realizing that he'll never win major tournaments as long as this guy who is 5 years younger than him is playing the sport. That has to be a bitter pill to swallow. You are one of the best 10 in the world, but won't reach the summit almost no matter what you do.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:19 pm to Thundercles
In the last 19 French opens here are your champions
Nadal
Stan
Federer
Djok
Nadal
Stan
Federer
Djok
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:21 pm to Thundercles
You missed Agassi there I believe.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:23 pm to Thundercles
4th highest salary 2022 for men was over $19mil, I could manage.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:36 pm to Thundercles
Still can't believe Roddick blew 2009. That was his day. He finally had a match with Fed under his control.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:46 pm to Thundercles
Yes. Prime example is Federer on clay. He was the second-best clay courter in the world by a mile, and very well might be the second-best clay courter ever. Problem was there was another mile between him and Nadal. Fed has almost nothing to show for his skill on clay because Nadal vacuumed everything up.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:49 pm to messyjesse
Roderick without fed would have 4 Wimbledon titles. FOUR. instead he has ZERO
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:52 pm to lsupride87
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Roderick
Robert Federal definitely stood in Roderick's way
Posted on 6/11/23 at 1:01 pm to Thundercles
Forget the Top 3/4 or Top 10. At least they win some ATP tournaments and have name recognition wherever they go. There's hundreds of players on the ITF tour just hoping to get into the ATP Top 100. They have to beg for sponsors, pay for travel and equipment and most of the times broke and depend on family support. It really is a brutal, lonely lifestyle and not for the weak minded.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 1:09 pm to Tangineck
Ha. Yeah I could live in relative anonymity playing tennis for 19 mil a year.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 1:22 pm to Thundercles
Yes. They travel every week to a new city and the top ranked player always wins.
Closest comparison is women’s sports where bracket challenges dont exist because the top seeds all advance every time.
Closest comparison is women’s sports where bracket challenges dont exist because the top seeds all advance every time.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 1:55 pm to Thundercles
quote:
Tennis feels like a sport where there's a clearcut top 2 or 3 and everyone else is just there for the memories.
yep. it's always been thus.
McEnroe Borg
wonderful finals
some Argentine could make them work on clay. he's your guy3.
see also evert vs Navratilova seemed like a decade.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 2:00 pm to tigerfan4120
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Stefanos Tsitsipas
This honestly must be crazy. You're a decade behind a pack of three of the greatest to ever play and think you have a shot once they retire, then just as they reach the end of their careers the next big thing enters the professional circuit that's already better than you while you're playing your best.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 2:24 pm to Thundercles
It's definitely the sport that imho magnifies small differences between players the most.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 5:40 pm to MidnightVibe
This is why Grand Slams in Tennis are more prestigious than Majors in Golf. Plenty of journymen have won a Golf Major and done nothing else of note.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:13 pm to Thundercles
Tennis may be the sport where the “better” player wins the most often. Sure there are upsets but luck is not a big factor due to the sheer volume of points.
A fortunate carom or bounce in golf can be the difference between winning and finishing 30th.
And then in a low scoring team sport like hockey or soccer, one team can absolutely dominate game flow and lose.
Swimming seems to be another one. If you’re second best in your event, you might never win a race like with that British breast stroke guy who was such a massive favorite in every race, the guys behind him
A fortunate carom or bounce in golf can be the difference between winning and finishing 30th.
And then in a low scoring team sport like hockey or soccer, one team can absolutely dominate game flow and lose.
Swimming seems to be another one. If you’re second best in your event, you might never win a race like with that British breast stroke guy who was such a massive favorite in every race, the guys behind him
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:18 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
quote:
Yes. They travel every week to a new city and the top ranked player always wins.
It only really feels this way because of the shear dominance of Federer, Nadal, and Djok. Before them, this wasn't how it was and once Nole is gone, it will likely go back to there being far more parity, especially with Alcaraz already having some injuries.
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